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Kieran MacDonald, ex-Motherwell youngster who moved on to Clyde, has been signed by Accies.

 

Choose any 2 from:

 

a) We should never have let him go

 

b) Hope he doesn't come back to haunt us

 

c) He always scores against us

 

Does him signing for Accies mean hes good or something?

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Does him signing for Accies mean hes good or something?

 

No better than any other of the guys we released that seem to give folk the fear. Lawless being the most recent example.

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thought Kieran had blonde hair

 

*Edit: I was thinking of Kieran McGachie... who funnily enough also signed with clyde. Wasn't he one of our "hot prospects"

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They will both come back to haunt us, because that's what "always" happens, especially if it's live on TV, is in front of a big 'Well support or the team they're playing for needs a win.

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Surprised we weren't in for Michael McGovern, just signed for our much loved Hamiltonian neighbours.

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Off topic, but where is the Hamilton goalie (Cuthbert?) off to. I thought he had waited umpteen years for a crack at the premiership?

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No better than any other of the guys we released that seem to give folk the fear. Lawless being the most recent example.

 

Nothing to do with giving people fear. Everything about us not effectively developing our youth players.

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Nothing to do with giving people fear. Everything about us not effectively developing our youth players.

 

If that was true, then at least one of them would have gone on to a higher (or even equal level) to us after we released them.

 

I don't remember that ever happening - which was kinda my original point.

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If that was true, then at least one of them would have gone on to a higher (or even equal level) to us after we released them.

 

I don't remember that ever happening - which was kinda my original point.

 

The Leeds goalie, Alan Martin is it?

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As far as I remember it was Alan Martin who chose to leave us rather than us releasing him. He was highly rated and a regular in the Scotland under 19's at the time he decided to leave us for Leeds.

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As far as I remember it was Alan Martin who chose to leave us rather than us releasing him. He was highly rated and a regular in the Scotland under 19's at the time he decided to leave us for Leeds.

 

You remember correctly.

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If that was true, then at least one of them would have gone on to a higher (or even equal level) to us after we released them.

 

I don't remember that ever happening - which was kinda my original point.

 

How do you work that out?

 

If that were true the whole idea of developing youth would be redundant because the best players will make it anyway.

 

Are you trying to tell me if Jamie Murphy had been released at 16 or 17 he would have been guaranteed to make it in football? I disagree completely, there is every chance he would be out the game or playing at a much lower level.

 

By the way Jamie Murphy was the last youth player we sold and he came into our first team 8 years ago so I'll make my original point again.

 

We do not effectively develop our youth players.

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means what exactly? develop them and sell them on?

 

Produce players of a quality that attract interest from buying clubs.

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I'm not really bothered, an Angol or Ojaama will make us more money than Steven Lawless or Josh Watt ever would.

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Produce players of a quality that attract interest from buying clubs.

 

 

it would be great if we could do that, but we cant force clubs to buy our players. We cant offer bigger and longer term contracts like Hibs and United do - we simply do not have the money.

 

Darren Randolph was one of the best players to play with us in recent years and not once did someone offer us £££ for him. Ojamma and Murphy went for peanuts in comparison to what they were actually worth. Is that a develpoment issue? or is that a business problem? maybe we dont big them up enough like other clubs or the media do - but again, thats not a development issue.

 

This season, we have the chance to see how Leitch, Carswell, Moore and Erwin all fair - other than that, we have been very successful on the park the last few seasons with the model being used by McCall - should we really change that? Are Erwin or Moore really going to knock Sutty out the team? I dont think so

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Erwin could score 30 this season and we'll get nothing for him.

 

we do fine at developing players, dont have the funds for coaching to that next level so they move on

 

the problem is we dont have funds to put them on deals that would allow us the sale prices we think they are worth

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so sign them up on a 3 year deal we can't apparently afford with the intention of selling them after a year and a half.

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Well,I never, I think Makaveli's cracked it!

 

Imagine how much we could sell them for if we signed them up for 10 years (on deals we couldn't afford) and sold them after 5.

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Didn't Jim McClean once try that 10 year deal for Drunken Ferguson... :whistling:

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