Yassin 675 Report post Posted January 6, 2018 He'll definitely have played against us at Livi as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inthebasement 84 Report post Posted January 9, 2018 Delighted Hammell has landed new role he's been a model pro for us and will be an ideal role model for the youngsters. Some left foot. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haggischomper 1,370 Report post Posted January 9, 2018 Always felt he should have been taking our penalties Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kmcalpin 1,040 Report post Posted January 9, 2018 Always felt he should have been taking our penalties I'm sure he took one in a penalty shoot out at Forfar ........and missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lobey_Dosser 783 Report post Posted January 9, 2018 Always felt he should have been taking our penalties You must have missed the midweek trip to Forfar. As good as Hammell was, Ive been struggling to identify games and moments as key highlights specific to him. Maybe thats a reflection of his consistency over the years. The one regret will always be starting the 2011 cup final in midfield, I wonder if him and McCall ever had words about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ropy 655 Report post Posted January 9, 2018 Biggest game of his career and he is played out of position. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
claretband 18 Report post Posted January 9, 2018 Aye I forgot about Strachan calling Hammell up a few years ago. Remember Strachan had some very nice things to say about him on one of the Tv games. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haggischomper 1,370 Report post Posted January 10, 2018 Somehow, he has the same number of Scotland caps as Steven Saunders. I weep. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daver 200 Report post Posted January 10, 2018 Even worse is they've both got more than Joe Wark. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ONeils40yarder 884 Report post Posted January 10, 2018 On Joe Wark, and having never seen him play, if he was so good, why didn't he get a cap for Scotland (I'm assuming because of competition for places at that time), but probably more surprisingly, why did he never get a move to a bigger club? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yorkyred 547 Report post Posted January 10, 2018 Must admit I was always quite surprised at the criticism of him, I thought he was a better footballer than given credit for and certainly better than Dunn. I would imagine in his prime he was extremely competent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcguru 7 Report post Posted January 10, 2018 On Joe Wark, and having never seen him play, if he was so good, why didn't he get a cap for Scotland (I'm assuming because of competition for places at that time), but probably more surprisingly, why did he never get a move to a bigger club? Different Scotland managers played McGrain and Jardine ahead of Joe even though both of them were right backs weren't they? Can't remember if was McGrain or Jardine who always switched to left back for Scotland instead of selecting Joe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kmcalpin 1,040 Report post Posted January 10, 2018 On Joe Wark, and having never seen him play, if he was so good, why didn't he get a cap for Scotland (I'm assuming because of competition for places at that time), but probably more surprisingly, why did he never get a move to a bigger club? I'd rate Joe Wark as our best left back since I began going to Fir Park. Joes' only weakness that I could see was his lack of pace. Why didn't he move clubs? I don't know the answer to that except perhaps that he played in a different era with more club loyalty and no Bosman moves. He never got capped purely because of Old Firm bias, which is why I stopped going to Scotland games. Don't forget too we had Baldy Shaw in the 40s and 50s. Now with Stevie Hammell we've had more than our fair share of loyal left backs. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacol 42 Report post Posted January 10, 2018 I'd rate Joe Wark as our best left back since I began going to Fir Park. Joes' only weakness that I could see was his lack of pace. Why didn't he move clubs? I don't know the answer to that except perhaps that he played in a different era with more club loyalty and no Bosman moves. He never got capped purely because of Old Firm bias, which is why I stopped going to Scoltand games. Don't forget too we had Baldy Shaw in the 40s and 50s. Now with Stevie Hammell we've had more than our fair share of loyal left backs. I agree Joe Wark was the best left back I can remember watching in a Motherwell strip he maybe wasnt the quickest but he timed his tackles so well not many got past him and the old firm bias was what put paid to any chance of a Scotland call up. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weeyin 3,632 Report post Posted January 10, 2018 He never got capped purely because of Old Firm bias, which is why I stopped going to Scoltand games. Exactly this. If you think OF bias is bad now (which it is), when Joe was at his peak, the bias was 10 times worse. If there was a Rangers or Celtic option for the national team, they were always going to be preferred. If there wasn't, then it was off to the English leagues to pick someone. Not that guys like Sandy Jardine and Danny McGrain were bad players - but they were both right backs, and Joe was easily their equal at worst. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steelboy 1,032 Report post Posted January 10, 2018 Willie Donachie is about the same age as Joe Wark and has 35 caps so he must have been at left back for a good chunk of the 70s. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The African 387 Report post Posted January 10, 2018 Willie Donachie is about the same age as Joe Wark and has 35 caps so he must have been at left back for a good chunk of the 70s. And the only thing of note he did in a Scotland shirt was score an own goal when we played against Wales in 1978. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weeyin 3,632 Report post Posted January 10, 2018 Willie Donachie is about the same age as Joe Wark and has 35 caps so he must have been at left back for a good chunk of the 70s. McGrain played left back for the most of the first half of the 70s. Donachie came and went, but was the classic case of looking to England when McGrain wasn't available or fancied. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weeyin 3,632 Report post Posted January 10, 2018 And the only thing of note he did in a Scotland shirt was score an own goal when we played against Wales in 1978. I was at that game too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kmcalpin 1,040 Report post Posted January 10, 2018 I agree Joe Wark was the best left back I can remember watching in a Motherwell strip he maybe wasnt the quickest but he timed his tackles so well not many got past him and the old firm bias was what put paid to any chance of a Scotland call up. Also forgot to mention Ben Ellis who notched up about 280 games at left back for us. He could head a ball further than many could kick it. Long before our time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Dosser 176 Report post Posted January 10, 2018 Joe wad a marvellous and clean tackler, with India-rubber legs and a great attitude. I remember writing to the Glasgow Herald when it was a newspaper to complain about him being overlooked in favour of OF players. To be fair, it was printed. Good job it was pre-internet or I'd have been trolled to hell. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wellfan1984 305 Report post Posted January 11, 2018 Remember Strachan had some very nice things to say about him on one of the Tv games. First "pundit" that I noticed that noticed that Hammell had one of the best first touches in Scotland. Also bemoaned Hammell's age. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites