steelboy Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 for a wee bit of perspective there was a stat in the times today that wayne bridge has crossed the ball 29 times in the epl this season and not hit a man city player once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepper Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 I think you can forgive that given he is a world class defender! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 I think you can forgive that given he is a world class defender! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous Wee Grafter Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 He cost us a goal by giving the ball away in the corner for the 2nd goal. Then we failed to clean our lines properly (at least twice) and then left McGeady unmarked in the box to allow him time and space to score the goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted December 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 But who cares. Be is fast and can control the ball. What does it matter that he is rubbish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepper Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 What you don't think Wayne Bridge is world class? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 What you don't think Wayne Bridge is world class? Your answer is in the post you were replying to. If he were indeed world class would you not expect a better return in terms of his crossing. Yass has as good a record as that and folks are calling him rubbige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motherwell Football Club Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 I've given up, the fact the people don't understand his role is plain stupid. On two occasions Jennings didn't cover for Yassin, they both led to attacking opportunities. McGeadys goal was a combination of things, Yassin should have just hoofed the ball, Jennings should have calmly passed the ball away, Hammell should have marked his man. Many were at fault. THe same people who moan about us being overly defensive and playing from the back too often are those criticising Yassin for being attack minded. The same folk probably slated Paul Quinn and now wish he was still here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 What you don't think Wayne Bridge is world class? So it is acceptable for a world class wide defender (according to you) to not be able to cross for the life of himself, but it is shocking that a Motherwell wide defender can't... MFC, is spot on by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nethertonwellfan Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 So it is acceptable for a world class wide defender (according to you) to not be able to cross for the life of himself, but it is shocking that a Motherwell wide defender can't... MFC, is spot on by the way. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepper Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Your answer is in the post you were replying to. If he were indeed world class would you not expect a better return in terms of his crossing. Yass has as good a record as that and folks are calling him rubbige Apologies if my original post was slightly misleading. What I meant is that you can forgive Wayne Bridge's poor crossing ability bacause he is so good at his defensive duties. You cant say the same about Yass. I for one would rather have a solid right back who hardly ventured forward than someone constantly roaming all over the park costing us goals every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepper Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 So it is acceptable for a world class wide defender (according to you) to not be able to cross for the life of himself, but it is shocking that a Motherwell wide defender can't... MFC, is spot on by the way. No that's not what I meant. See above. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Apologies if my original post was slightly misleading. What I meant is that you can forgive Wayne Bridge's poor crossing ability bacause he is such a good defender. You cant say the same about Yass. I would say his poor crossing ability ranks him far from world class. I can forgive Yass' poor crossing ability cos he's also far from world class otherwise he wouldn't be here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepper Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 I would say his poor crossing ability ranks him far from world class. I can forgive Yass' poor crossing ability cos he's also far from world class otherwise he wouldn't be here. Aye but that's my point, he's also shite at defending so what exactly does he bring to the team? I would also argue that there are plenty world class full backs who have poor stats when it comes to productive crosses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Aye but that's my point, he's also shite at defending so what exactly does he bring to the team? I would also argue that there are plenty world class full backs who have poor stats when it comes to productive crosses. And my point is unrealistic expectations of our players from many fans. I don't expectanything from our players, I take what I get but I'm prepared to trust the managers opinion of a player more than I am yours. The point you seem to be making is that world class defenders earn themselves an undeserved reputation these days. If their crossing is shite, they cannae be world class can they? Maybe very good but I'd expect more from a supposed world class player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepper Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 And my point is unrealistic expectations of our players from many fans. I don't expectanything from our players, I take what I get but I'm prepared to trust the managers opinion of a player more than I am yours. The point you seem to be making is that world class defenders earn themselves an undeserved reputation these days. If their crossing is shite, they cannae be world class can they? Maybe very good but I'd expect more from a supposed world class player. Fair enough, but I don't think it's unrealistic to expect you right back to be able to defend. If he's good going forward and crossing a ball then that's a bonus imo. A right back, world class or not, first and foremost has to be able to defend. That's all I'm asking for! That's not the point I was making. My fault I didn't put it across very well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 I've given up, the fact the people don't understand his role is plain stupid. On two occasions Jennings didn't cover for Yassin, they both led to attacking opportunities. McGeadys goal was a combination of things, Yassin should have just hoofed the ball, Jennings should have calmly passed the ball away, Hammell should have marked his man. Many were at fault. THe same people who moan about us being overly defensive and playing from the back too often are those criticising Yassin for being attack minded. The same folk probably slated Paul Quinn and now wish he was still here. +2 Shocker I know but definitely +2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 I'm prepared to trust the managers opinion of a player more than I am yours. Does that include this man, fatcalf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Does that include this man, fatcalf? He's no' oor manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickoza Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Charlton Boss speaks. Much like we already know, Yass's Agen is bullshi**ng them too.... MOTHERWELL have told Charlton they would like to extend Yassin Moutaouakil’s loan deal in January. The defender joined the Scottish side in August on a temporary basis, but the terms of that deal end next month and Addicks boss Phil Parkinson has revealed Motherwell are keen to keep hold of the player for a bit longer. “Motherwell have mentioned to us they would like to extend it,” he said. “There are one or two other clubs who his agent tells us are interested, so we are really just waiting for developments on that. “He hasn’t told us who those clubs are and we haven’t had the calls ourselves, but as you know agents work in the background and we've given the agent permission to try and find Yassin a club.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted December 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 I hope there is a bid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosser30 Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 I hope there is a bid I hope we get rid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted December 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Aye. I meant a bid by some other mob not ourselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderwell Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Im personally so pleased at the moment with the direction we are going in bar playing Moutakil. Here are some of the reasons why He is not hear for the long haul He lets EVERY ball into the box apart from slide challenges where he should be winning the ball in the first place. Causing our defence more issues. He runs with his head down He cant cross. Get Saunders at right back where he can improve his game, as a long term player. Lets play Hutchison when fit in centre or Craigan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambo97 Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Im personally so pleased at the moment with the direction we are going in bar playing Moutakil. Here are some of the reasons why He is not hear for the long haul He lets EVERY ball into the box apart from slide challenges where he should be winning the ball in the first place. Causing our defence more issues. He runs with his head down He cant cross. Get Saunders at right back where he can improve his game, as a long term player. Lets play Hutchison when fit in centre or Craigan. Is he deaf as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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