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Injury time at Ibrox, Rangers hanging on for a point and you reckon VAR got involved, to possibly award the opposition a penalty..... its GrizzlyG's job to crack the jokes

What I discovered the last time we were discussing this is that there is training compensation up until a player's 23rd birthday, and solidarity payments after that: "Any time a player is transferred while they are under contract, then a solidarity fee is paid to all clubs that trained the player between his 12th and 23rd birthdays at a proportional rate depending on how long the player was at each club." What I hadn't realised is that they continue throughout the players' career. "Solidarity payments do not stop at the player’s 23rd birthday (like the training compensation payments do) but continue through the course of the player’s professional career each time he is transferred while under contract." So as long a fee is paid while they are under contract, even if they are 40 years old, we still receive our cut. Apparently 5% of the transfer fee is used for the distributions.

That Celtic defence is utter dugmeat. We are going to get plenty of chances to score. Just need our strikers to actually hit the target and we will be golden. Going for 4-1 to us

Said it before the rangers and celtic games, the ref will need to be strong. Await Tuesday for that crowd to get the benefit of a decision. You can see why so many fans in Scotland get hacked off , the selective use of var... used for said's disallowed goal for a supposed foul but not used yesterday ....it is total bollicks and treats the paying customers with contempt. .. ..

It needs to stop as the club will be getting more fines and/or sanctions until it does. As you say continue with the grear support without being wee fannies setting off flares and endangering the people around them.

We already have strikers who can't score.

It’s reality, not theory, and it doesn’t seem like you’re seeing it past your blue-tinted specs.

Your soft spot for Rangers here is showing.

Spoken like a true Rangers fan. 😉 I don't see anything being made of yesterday's wrong decision. It is controversial because it was wrong but there is very little to no coverage about it. The one for me that is indefensible was the handball v Livingston at Ibrox. It is a real stretch to say that officials cheat but that is as close to it as I have seen. An absolute stonewall penalty denied because Livingston were playing Rangers at Ibrox.

My point isn’t that officials are secretly plotting every decision to conspire against teams. It’s that the system lets bias run unchecked, especially in big moments. VAR hides subjectivity behind supposed objectivity. Smaller clubs keep getting screwed, and the media only shouts as loud as its viewership, while the same officials face zero consequences because the likes of Collum keep calling things honest mistakes. If nothing changes and the same clubs keep benefiting, it isn’t random or nonsense, it’s cheating in plain sight.

We all need to accept that VAR simply doesn’t work for smaller teams. In Scotland, when most officials are either biased or incompetent, and subjectivity is allowed to operate a supposedly objective technology, smaller clubs have no chance of being treated fairly. It’s cheating, with the same people acting as judge, jury, and executioner. We won’t get fair refereeing in our game until bigotry and ignorance stop being tolerated, let alone celebrated.

That just tells you everything that is wrong with Scottish Football. Everybody (except Rangers fans) can see it was a penalty. Take that same situation up the other end and a penalty would be awarded.

To be fair or more accurate, need them to score. We hit the target a few times yesterday but made it too easy for the goalie to save.

I thought everyone knew that Rangers VAR doesn't review that kind of incident.

It’s hard on us coming away from that with no points. Rangers ended up getting a lot of chances towards the end as we flung everything forward. To go to Ibrox and have 55% posession is something I don’t think a Motherwell team has done in a long long time. Keep in mind we also played without our top scorer amd I think Cook coukd also have made a difference. We made enough good chances to where we could have scored at least one goal but as we all know, that is our weakness at the moment. We just have to be hopeful that we can fix that in January but understandable if we have to wait till next season. While it’s a disappointing result, I’m not disappointed in our performance and I think it’s a fair statement to say that Rangers are no better a team than us, so with half the season still to go we still have a lot to play for.

I’d love to see us get a big commanding CB who also causes opposition defenders a problem at set pieces - one can but dream

No. Turnbull was doing fine at Celtic until he was injured. By the time he was fully fit again, the new manager had built a different style of team without him. Cardiff was probably a bad move, though. Miller is highly rated, but that doesn't mean a 19 year old is ready to be a starter in a team in a new country. Arsene Wenger said it took about 6 months for a new player to adapt to a new team in the same league. Longer if they moved to a different country. You can a take a look at teams like Liverpool this season to see how some of their, undoubtedly talented, new signings have struggled. I understand the reasoning, but Miller joining Udinese without a proper pre-season in Motherwell or Italy might have been a rare misstep. While you can never guarantee that a youngster will flourish in later years, Miller looked about as close to guaranteed as you can find. Max Johnston was rated too, and he won a cup and two league titles after he left. So picking the right team and right country also plays a big part.

The media have a big part to play in this. If the roles had been reversed and Rangers were denied an injury time penalty this would be a headline story this morning. The story would run for days and the referees name would be in the spotlight to ensure that his personal life would be very uncomfortable for a few weeks. I looked at the BBC sport page this morning and but for a tiny reference in the match report there is nothing. The last example of this was the Trusty head knock on Butland. That story ran for almost two weeks and look at the decisions that have gone Rangers way since. The Livingston non penalty actually did get some press time because it was so blatant but the story disappeared fairly quickly. Rangers know this works for them and there are Rangers minded people in the media that are more than happy to help out. It will never change. Had it been up the other end yesterday it would have been a penalty. I don't think it is a conscious decision by the referee to purposely cheat but in a split second he has to make a decision that will have implications for him personally over the coming days. It is always the safe option to favour Rangers in that situation as the lack of coverage of the incident proves this morning.

Thats correct yes. It will be a % of any profit.

Looks like Lennon Miller could be heading to Strasbourg in January. It might be my pigeon French but reports are he’s signing and not a loan deal? Hope that’s the case with our sell on clause.

Really good post. Longelo like Stevie hammell of old had to make up for the ineffectual Said today (in terms or tracking and physicality) covering masses of space. Said and even more so Osong don't fit into JBA's style of play. Charles Cook is a far more physcial player and would have helped Longelo more today. Sparrow massively helped Koutroumbis on the other side.

Never saw it on Scottish news, a coup sounds quite serious 🤣🤣🤣