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So far and only because of the Turnbull money. Next season you've got both Dundee clubs with owners seemingly happy to pump millions into their playing squads. Hibs with 5m American investment. Kilmarnock with Billy Bowie and his blank chequebook Hearts hoovering up all the better players in our league with 15m sitting in the bank from their foundation and Budge and Co happy to keep putting money in. Ross County with Uncle Roy's blank chequebook. Aberdeen with a rich chairman putting his money where his mouth is (not that its helped this season of course) St Johnstone with a potential American buyer with money to burn by the sounds of it. Even St Mirren have Gilmour putting money in albeit in the form of soft loans. Old Firm take care of themselves. That leaves us and with no form of outside investment unless you class the WS as that. Money doesn't always buy success of course but it makes it a damn sight easier. Do we sit back and hope that the teams with more money than us manage to keep f*****g things up and we keep "punching above our weight" and continue to get lucky with bargain basement buys to stay in the top flight. I'm still of the opinion that the WS retain control of the club but if we want to keep competing at this level in light of whats happening at other clubs we need to look at every option otherwise we might find ourselves in the never ending cycle of trying to avoid the dreaded bottom 2 places every season and the type of football that brings

Again agree. I want Motherwell to be in the position where if other clubs come knocking for our best players - we can say no. I also completely get that there's also a balancing act at times as well - do you sell for a good sum when you can or let talent go for very little - as happened with Max Johnson. Elsewhere on the boards folk were talking about the prospect of clubs coming in for Theo Bair - and he's only scored 13 goals I think. That's not me trying to talk him down. It just seems as if every time a player is either very talented or hits form - we resign ourselves to losing them. Also. It would be good to have a settled team - and not face the prospect of a rebuild every other season. Fan ownership is a great thing - but I really do think we need a cash injection from elsewhere

I agree with this and whenever (or possibly if) we have a Society meeting there are going to be a lot of questions asked about exactly that. Going back to the very start of the Society one of the first things that happened was the Society bought 5% of the club for £250,000 without informing the members which led to complaints, a meeting and new rules being put in place. The share sale recently apparently involved selling 5% of the club for £10,000 which is hugely undervalued. My back of a fag packet calculations put this at a 90% discount for the buyers. I'm sure i'm not the only member who wants to know why this is considered beneficial for the membership and who exactly benefitted from the discounted sale.

There is definitely strength in numbers and members donations being locked in is also a positive. But the Club and others have been given Society funds on a permanent..not loan....basis. Contrary to what we were promised would happen when the Society was established. So Society funds are lower than they should be given total donations collected. A figure in excess of £1.25m is gone forever. The people who allowed that to happen are still on the Society Board. More recent appointees are looking to have better control over Society assets but it remains to be seen whether they will succeed. I genuinely wish them well and early signs are promising. Given how Society funds have been managed up to now, the limited scope for increasing monthly income given our fan numbers and the fact the Club has failed to at least break even for a number of years .........for how long do you think the Society can continue to sustain the Club before funds run out? Having to demonstrate the ability to financially cover an 18 month period to appease the football authorities also comes into play. I believe external investment is essential to ensure the future of our Club at the present level. Respect them or not, it is clear the current Club Board shares that view. And on that basis I think they are acting in the Club's best interest. But we need to find the correct balance, which retains the Society as the major shareholder, does not make us overly reliant on the goodwill of any outside investor and protects Club assets. Not an easy task. Until we are presented with the facts of any investment offer we need to keep an open mind. It would also help if meantime the Society would spell out exactly how our funds will be utilised in future. Are we returning to the original model and so longer being utilised as a piggy bank to be raided for whatever purposes certain people see fit.

My view is that no one is in a position to make a decision on what way they would vote right now as none of us has any detail of what the deal is. Once that is known, if as Steelboy claims, it doesnt value MFC appropriately AND doesnt provide us with a platform to increase our revenue streams, then I would be voting against. If they want a controlling share of the club the offer, for me, would have to be "transformational" for us as a club to be entertained. I dont see these guys as having that sort of money, but lets wait and see.

I personally don't think we should have to rely on selling our young talent to stay in the black

That's supposed to have been happening a few times. Fingers crossed they finally do the right thing this time.

Haha ovcourse its at Aberdeen, Silly old me

What a shame it would be if Dundee lost these last 2 games by default for not having a suitable pitch 🙄

COYW!!!

Just finish with a Ba boom.....and COYW!! That is always my tactic !!! Ba boom

The Rancid is reporting that SK is trying to fix up Georgie Gent and Jack Vale for next season. I hope he can pull that off ,but fear its a pipedream. .

Surprised at the lack of Champ manager style posts regarding signing a declining player versus the possibility of an ascending one you can develop, does no one play champ man any more? sake

It's no secret that the WS board would prefer to retain 51% of the shares but they're also not stupid enough to reject any offer of inward investment out of hand before hearing what it is. That offer will eventually be put to the members and it will be up to us to decide what we vote for, not any one individual The various WS board members will no doubt have their own individual views the same as us but I'm sure any recommendations they put forward will have the best interests of the club at heart. I'd also expect some kind of open forums where people can ask questions and express their views prior to any vote.

£1.5m for a controlling share of the club values us at £3m. Given that Lennon Miller is worth that on his own, Im not sure how seriously I would be taking those figures.

For me, the Society Board are the members representatives within the club and our access to influence. They will clearly have greater insight to whats going on within the club and access to more information than us. I think they also have a responsibility for the security & stability of the club and to the Society model. That should only change if they no longer believe fan ownership is viable. I think once the details of this deal are known and the Society Board have had a chance to examine the proposals, they should put forward the pro's and cons to the members, but ultimately they should take a position on it and give their reasons why. That way we can all decide our own position based on all the information available. Its our club. We should decide what happens to it going forward.

Kelly can leave us in the summer and really it's no big loss easily replaced in my view and replace on a much cheaper wage and still be as effective. Sure the defence has been up and down but by Christ alot of goals we have lost should have been stopped and Kelly hasn't been anywhere near them. Sure he has had his good games with us but after this season think it's time us and Kelly part ways we 100 percent needed a commanding GK and Kelly just isn't it. Also never make a GK captain ever again!

Reading through this thread, I totally understand the concerns about what’s came out today. for a bit of background, I used to post on here a lot in the wtfc days, and I’m more of an admirer from afar these days. I’m a season ticket holder in the East stand and I’ve supported Motherwell for many years: first game in 1989 but I’m shite at maths, so that many years. not that it matters. All fans should have an opinion on this, whether your favourite player was Cooper, McFadden, Higdon or Moult, even Bair, we all have a say. Thats the beauty of a fan owned club, ok, we don’t have the full details just now, but we will when the time comes. Any Motherwell fans who are not members of the Well Society, make sure to sign up now, this is the only way your voice will be heard. The future of our club is at stake here. I’m quite concerned by how many fans think the fan owned model isn’t working. Please do your due diligence, we’re in a decent position right now.

Hes no that daft. There is a plan.🤞

Would have rather he got something in place before running to the press only alerts other clubs of their availability