santheman
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8 minutes ago, Toxteth O'Grady said:
Michael Wimmer, apparently
3rd time lucky maybe.
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4 minutes ago, davkel said:
The new manager wasn’t at the game yesterday .. he was abroad .. he is flying in tomorrow to be revealed
Could have been his No 2
And no jobby jokes please.
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3 minutes ago, mfc88 said:
Game - absolutely woeful. Can't be bothered saying any more.
Manager rumours - Michael O'Neill sitting in the stand. But is he not still NI manager? Probably a red herring if so.
Someone was saying that Van Gaag was in the stand as well.
Listening to the rumours in the pie queue was more exciting than watching the game.
I'm past the stage of even caring if I'm honest just scunnered watching dross every week not just Motherwell but the League in general.
Unless the new manager has a magic wand I can see us in deep shit.
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Rumours in the pie queue is its going to be announced Monday if not before and it's not Ketsbaia or Frail.
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8 hours ago, Kmcalpin said:
IF true, Ketsbaia would be a risky appointment. He seems to have moved clubs fairly frequently.
He doesn't seem to fit our past managerial model, but who knows?
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11 minutes ago, mio said:
Am I reading too much into Neil Lennon not being involved in media work or commentary at parkhead tonight?
seems unusual as he has been on all of them I think?
He's in Tenerife.
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2 minutes ago, steelman1991 said:
Who did? McCall or Lowe
Sorry, Lowe
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46 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said:
I hadnt really considered McCall.
He was a lovely fella and seemed to be a good man manager, but he did have quite a bit of money at his disposal at that time. We went with a smaller squad but were paying more in wages/bonuses to attract a better quality player.
Would he be able to achieve the same success on the current budget?
Would he have refreshed his ideas enough to justify giving him another shot?
Maybe he could turn Davor into the modern day Stuart Carswell!
Ultimately, Id still prefer Ryan Lowe (I think) based only on his Wikipedia page!
Shot up to strong favourite with the bookies today not that it means much.
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Data only goes so far.
It doesn't tell you what a players personality is like and whether or not he would fit in with the existing dressing room or thrive in a different environment.
I seem to recall Robinson saying that he didn't just look at stats and looked into a potential players background as well and whether he would fit into his vision before deciding whether to sign him.
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40 minutes ago, Lord Tanamo said:
What is it with you fukkers ? Nae wonder the old school guys have left this site in droves. Post a non-opinionated fact (for the benefit of younger viewers) and ye get turned on . WTF
Think you need a wee lie doon mate.
You're the one trying to push an agenda.
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Rumours of another 2 coming in on Monday too.
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Just watching some videos of Aberdeen fans after todays game hurling some amount of abuse at Thelin who to his credit came over and applauded them.
Same circumstances as us different outcome.
Wonder what the media darlings will have to say about that?.
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20 hours ago, wellfan said:
There's clearly a better balance to be struck between quality vs quantity at a club like Motherwell, and I don't think Kettlewell and Daws ever got that balance right.
Bang on.
We bring in guys nearing the end of their careers with the problems that brings with wear and tear and injuries.
Guys from overseas with no experience of the Scottish game and who you havent seen in the flesh who take at least 6 months or longer to acclimatise to their new surroundings.
Random loan signings who sometimes work out and sometimes not.
I'd like to see us taking a more targeted approach instead of the scattergun one we have now.
In saying all that we're probably not alone and maybe its just testament to the lack of quality available on our budget.
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3 hours ago, Lord Tanamo said:
At that time tho, our Board would have been populated by 60 somethings Protestant businessmen and am sure the Union Flag was flown on matchdays back then (take from that what you like).
As was the Saltire (take from that what you like)
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Certainly doesn't appear to have gone down too well amongst the vast majority of fans from what I've been reading online tonight.
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A few things to take from that for me.
A wee subliminal message to the fans responsible for the alleged abuse- Look what you've caused so take a step back, reflect on your actions and think about your behaviour in the future or else we find ourselves in the same position with any new new manager if things arent going well.
In saying that it must have been record levels of abuse for his family to have made him feel the way he does. I've been at every game home and away and can honestly say I haven't heard anything other than the usual moans I've heard for the last 40 odd years. Not saying it didn't happen though.
If things were that bad ar Fir Park then there's boxes in the Cooper Stand they could have been given so that they didn't need to listen to the crowd. Caldwell seemed genuinely not to have a clue about what was going on.
Likewise away from home they could have been given tickets in the hospitality area or directors box away from the Motherwell fans.
But at the end of the day and not looking to justify anything, if we hadn't been served up absolute dross in the last few games then the boo boys wouldn't have had as much to boo about although some of our fans make me wonder why they actually go to games as they'll go apeshit even if we're winning and playing well, Im sure everyone on here will know someone in that category. They must be fun company at home.
Not sure whether that interview will put a lid on things or fan the MSM flames even more tbh.
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I dont think we would have the size of budget to interest Lennon, Scott Brown maybe but would we pay compensation for him and would he leave a club that might possibly get promotion this year.
The Old Firm connection doesn't bother me as there's nearly always some connection to them tentatively or directly for most Scottish born candidates.
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Last post on this.
I'm fuming that Kettlewell didn't have the balls to go with some dignity although I can understand why he did what he did.
I'm absolutely fuming that a few arseholes who think they can shout whatever they like have put us in this position.
I'm also fuming at the club and the Well Society for putting out statements that effectively tar us all with the same brush as the arseholes above and given the press a field day.
I'm actually beginning to question the whole set up of the club as we look like Amateur night at the Palladium.
Seriously considering just walking away after 60 years.
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All they needed to say was although we recognise the right of our fanbase to criticise and voice their concerns, we also recognise that a small vocal minority may have taken their criticism a bit too far and we would urge them to consider their actions going forward so that it does not reflect on the wider fan base and cause negative publicity for the club.
Or words to that effect
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Frail probably has 3/4 games to show what he can do.
Thats assuming he would be interested in throwing his hat into the ring.
Will be interesting to see if he has a different mindset in terms of tactics and formation to Kettlewell and gets a reaction from the players.
Long term who knows but don't think it will be any of the ones mentioned.
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7 minutes ago, wellgirl said:
I agree. But the bigger issue for me is whoever leaked that him and Casey had the bust up - the writing was clearly on the wall after that
Bust ups in the dressing room that become common knowledge rarely end well for the manager in charge.
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15 minutes ago, Chanzeypopz said:
We havent had a proper hammering off that lot in quite some time. Not looking forward to this one at all
Think one if two things will happen.
Either the players will be so happy to see the back of him and having the shackles off that they go out and have the game of their lives
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They go out and its the same old same old only with someone different in charge (Frail).
We'll find out on Sunday.
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10 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said:
To a degree , he might also be pointing at the easiest target other than himself. I cant comment on the personal abuse as I never witnessed it but it shouldn't happen. There is also the possibility he had lost the dressing room and could see the writing on the wall , so chuck it with a record on paper that stands up and blame everyone else and his future employment is safeguarded. We will never know the truth.
Aye there's that and he is very adept at using the media to his advantage so shifting the blame onto the fans would leave him looking like the wronged party.
Maybe he's overstated the level of abuse but there's certainly been some personal stuff directed at him which I've witnessed personally that was out of order.
As you say we'll never know what's been said between him and the Board.
Either or I just don't think the inevitable headlines will leave us looking in a very good light as a club.
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Frail is an interesting one.
I wonder if he supported Kettlewells tactics or whether he just went with the flow.
Looks like he's very popular with the players at least.
It'll be interesting to see what kind of team and formation he puts out in the next 2 games assuming of course he is asked to do that.
If its major changes then I think we can assume that he and Kettlewell might not have been on the same page.
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Michael Wimmer Discussion Thread
in Club Chat
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Quite excited by this mainly because he's different.