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We’d need to match a similar formation . Otherwise he won’t get a chance to push forward , midfield gets over run and we end defending like dogs for most of the match . He’s better for Scotland than us (personal view) as the formation and team set up play more to his strengths

this is what frustrates me. We have 4 very decent central defenders to pick from. Both SOD & Carrol are suspect in defence but v good going forward. We have no wingers. We don't have 3 proven decent forwards. All day long a 3-5-2 would suit the players/strengths we have. Fair to say it will be 4-3-3.

I don't mind giving the opposition possession overall. Plenty of teams did that to us last season as we couldn't break them down. My frustration is it doesn't need to be an either or. We defend brilliantly (most of the time) + we have some very decent players who will score and create chances. If we can cut out the giving so much possession in and around our box, cut out the 15+ chances we give teams and just push up the park 20-30 yards we'll be a very difficult team for 9 or 10 teams in this league . At some point in time entertainment value is required.

Im with you on this. We are ruthless with the chances we make like us all delighted to win. It' just not enjoyable to have so little play, no progression, limited chances. If this was a short term plan to build towards something better then it would be easier to understand but from what we've gleaned the plan is simply defend deep and go for the smash and grab.

my worry listening to the pre match vid is he talks about defending better. We wouldn't need to fecking defend if we kept the damn ball - as you say, not rocket science.

Kirkie was my favourite player back in the day as well. Particularly against Hearts- he and Walter Kidd would really go at it. That said he could be a bit lazy. Mclean knew when to drop him to get the best from him.

we have very capable players moving forward who can cause damage. We do need to push the play further up the park and quite simply start passing rather than blootering it up the park and missing out the midfield.

Im with you 100% MINTY. Agree 3-5-2 would be good - its easy to flex to 5-3-2 when under the pump Also agree 100% - GA appears a stubborn so and so. Don't see it changing.

Appreciate we all see things differently . many of the games our midfield get over run and there’s little link play moving forward . having 4 or 5 through midfield would give us more strength and I think we can afford to go with 2 up front . just an opinion - not that it matters hugely as GA likely to continue with 4-3–3

personal view is the issue isn't the players - the 3 man midfield is a nonsense. Slattery has limitations , this is why he plays for us not Southampton. Donnelly, O'Hara, Slattery & Goss should all be good enough to do a job but only playing 3 isn't setting them up for success. Appreciate it's old fashioned but a 4-4-2 worked for over a century - can''t be that ridiculous an idea.

Watt will need to prove himself over a more sustained period of time before being considered for Scotland. As for SOD - I think it's worth us comparing our approach to games v's Scotlands. The national team play more to his strengths v's we boot the ball up the park and shout 'chase'

I'm not sold that's his problem. He has a win rate of +40% as a manager but hasn't lasted more than 2 years at most clubs he's been at. I suspect he has a proven method that get's decent results (+40% win) but dreadful to watch and eventually clubs get rid of them as fans can only last so long without losing their shit with anti football. He had a +48% win rate at Salford and on paper it looked very harsh to get rid of him. With this style of play it's understandable why it doesn't last beyond a couple of seasons.

KVV must wonder why he was signed - our style of play just doesn't work for him. Just looked through some of the stats. We''ve ranged from 25% possession when we beat Aberdeen to max of 50%. Against the OF it's less than 30%, against most its 40%. More worrying is we allow the opposition somewhere between 5-15 shots on our goal. We're lucky that the standard of most teams has been poor. Why GA thinks this is a good tactic is beyond me. What we work on in training (other than pure fitness) is also baffling . I just don't see any signs of us working on playing football.

Can’t ever see mugabi getting a game at right back ahead of SOD. I don’t think we’re playing any differently to when we had our run . Luck ran out. The 1-1 game with rangers is a good example - they missed a ton of chances that day - vs today they buried them . there’s been a case to change formation since pre season when 2nd tier teams controlled most of the game - but we got points earlier and put up with the dross . mid we start winning I suspect we will continue to accept points over performance - in short I don’t see GA having any flex to his very limited style

I don't believe blaming the Robinson era is reasonable. GA has signed/resigned +16 players. GA is accountable for the majority of this squad.

Sums up our current position well. Watched Newcastle v Cheslea las night who had all players too deep, got the ball, kicked it to the half way line giving the ball back to the opposition and repeat. Couldn't help but see the similarities with our approach to every game this season. These tactics don't work long term - unless you have a sensational team on the break - which we don't

GA can take great credit for getting us on track last season and for the points tally this season. We are broadly where we should be points and league position wise. Equally he deserves criticism of his 4-3-3 eye bleeding poor quality footy , particularly when we lose or get humped. A thrashing has been coming. We allow too much possession in our final 1/3 and too many shots at goal. I'm not calling for the managers head but I'm incredibly frustrated that he persists with the same tactics/formation each week. I honestly believe we could do a lot better with our existing squad if only we move to a 3-5-2, 4-4-2, 4-4-1-1. I don't see it changing though.

He’s played the same formation and tactics since he arrived and will argue that he’s got out of the relegation dog flight and top half for most of this season . I don’t see him changing any time soon to be honest - not that I’m advocating this turgid dross.

thats the strapline for season 21/22

just back from hols and watched the highlights. Overall we looked pretty poor apart from the golden 15 minute spell where we grabbed the 2 goals. That said the match officials have been really poor. Solhom was pulled down in the first half. If he had the cuteness of Brophy we'd have a certain pen.. Watts pen. First tackle was poor in the box and why the keeper wasn't booked or sent off is a bit odd. Their pen . Very soft, almost as if the ref was looking to find a way to even things out. The retake - a joke. I don't believe the officials are biased or anti Motherwell , just poor. In theory these things balance out over the season but we need to learn to be a bit more savvy in both boxes.

Completely with you . Including pre season we’ve been dominated by most teams - thankfully we have a few class acts who stick the ball in the net and we’ve ridden our luck to get points on the board . allowing teams to dominate possession and have 10+ shots on our goal isn’t a long term strategy . I credit GA with brining in some decent quality but his match play a bloody awful to watch

Sadly not a huge surprise . same tactics , same formation We have zero control of the game . The hope is they have no quality and can’t score and we somehow nick a goal on the counter

How kvv gets dropped regularly vs woolery, mcginley, sod , grimmie . ga frustrates - we seldom play our best players and never play anything than 433 with short corners etc cmon the well

I hear you , we do need a squad but I’d rather find a way for youngsters to be pushing through or have 1 or 2 decent back ups who could and should challenge both watt and kvv We have too many clear back ups , who won’t be first team regulars .Roberts , Justin , Connor shields and if we played a different formation Woolley could be a back up. a smaller squad where we pay a little higher salary would be ideal - supplemented by decent youngsters coming through

I’m surprised that there’s interest from the fans to keep him . I see him more of the problem than the solution - doesn’t offer that much, nothing wrong per say but like many of the journeyman who come through our books. id rather we got shot of the squad players we have and only bring in players who’re better than out first 11.