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You know, I could have sworn it was Steve too - but wikipedia has it listed as Stuart, so I thought my old memory was playing tricks. He was a pretty mediocre striker, but was a revelation when he stepped backward into defence and won player of the year in that position.

That was Bruce (Brucceeeee) Cleland who was a striker we signed from Albion Rovers. Chic McLelland was a defender. And Stuart McLelland was a striker we converted to a defender where he had more success.

He was also a McCall target, but he said we dropped out when Dundee Utd were able to offer twice the wages we could.

Tuton? I think he was released because we didn't fancy him.

Cheers. We do love the talented frustrators.

I keep seeing his name on here, but his career so far seems to be one of injuries and loans - the most recent being to League Two Mansfield Town with "a view to a permanent transfer." What's his story? Is it one of unfulfilled potential, or do people just think he's good because of his name?

The ambivalence to McDonald is due to a couple of factors, I suspect. One, he said he doesn't see eye to eye with the new gaffer. Two, even in a good year he was often not fit until September/Oct - and he's done zero pre-season so far. Add to that the fact that Robinson is looking for a younger and faster striker, Skippy's ruled out on both counts. Maybe the fact the turned us down for this season also plays into the feeling.

Makes sense. TBH, I don' think Robinson knows his best formation yet, and expect a few more experiments in the Cup games.

From watching on telly, it looked like Tanner was part of a front 2 and Cadden was mostly sticking to the right. In a game like that, though, with so much possession and Queens Park bedding in, there was more scope (and a need) for players to switch up their positions to try and create. I think we'll get more of an idea in the next game, but even then, formation will still be in part dictated by who Robinson decides is the fittest.

Ross County and Dundee Utd would be good shouts if they weren't so far away. Based on absolutely no evidence whatsoever I get the feeling Skippy would prefer a shorter commute.

Maybe tell him he's been voted off the club. He might just fall for it.

My only prediction is that every report on the game will make a reference to the newly demolished Greenock shipyard cranes.

Is it not the club that moves on players rather than Robinson? Especially if they're under contract. Robinson will just tell the Board who he feels is surplus to requirements, then the Board and the players' agents can sort it out.

It's always a punt when you sign a player from the English lower leagues. Sometimes you get a Moult, more often you don't. Predicting the ability to step up one division is difficult enough. Another wage off the payroll, so let's see who comes next.

I think it's still just a case of who's fittest at this stage. Robinson said last week that guys like Dunne and McManus were still a little behind some others in fitness due to their extended layoffs. No injury problems, just playing it safe.

I don't disagree with anybody that wants shot of him. All I'm saying is if it was a player we wanted to keep we'd play the "support him through this difficult time" card. He does seem to bit of an eejit, even by footballer standards.

If Skippy rejoined us this late in the summer he'd be fit just in time for the winter break.

I didn't vote, but the very fact that Cadden was able to play in a more attacking role again, I thought, made a big difference to the team.

I get it, but all we're looking for here is an excuse to punt him. Pictures taken from massive telephoto lens to accompany an article by scum sucking journalists is hardly solid evidence. Of course, the journalists that write these stories are pretty clever, because not once does it say either of the people, whose privacy they invaded, took anything illegal or did anything illegal. If it was somebody we wanted to stay, the club would issuing statements about newspaper intrusion and to eff off. BTW, I'm not saying we shouldn't punt him. Let's just not pretend it's because we have some moral authority and we'd apply the same rules equally to every player at the club.

Just to put things into perspective from yesterday. Our Premiership rival's results were: Killie lost to League One opposition Hibs had a comfortable win against League Two opposition Accies had to rely on two late goals to beat Lowland League opposition Partick Thistle drew against League One opposition and then lost the penalty shootout. They are all in pre-season too, so I'm not surprised by their struggles, but it makes our 5 - 1 win look pretty good in comparison.

If it was Louis Moult's missus that was seen with an unknown white substance, we wouldn't be debating the content of players' contracts. We'd be outraged at the intrusion from the low life, bottom feeding publication and asking why we should take moral guidance from those scumbags.

I don't remember Skippy ever saying he was heading to Oz. I thought he'd end up somewhere like Hibs. I also heard his wife has no desire to move to Australia.

We kept a hold of (our captain) Paul Quinn after he was convicted of beating a guy unconscious. We signed Bob Malcolm not long after he was found guilty of being so drunk he parked in the middle of the motorway to have a kip. Of course it would be useful if we could get rid of Blyth, but if we do it would obviously be for convenience and not because we take a hard line on bad behaviour.

It sounds like what you are saying is that we started like a team filled with new players and still in pre-season training. Like I said earlier in the thread, anybody who expected anything more than that in mid-July either knows nothing about the game or is just looking for any reason to complain. If you feel the need to boo that, you need a reality check.

Brian Kerr's problem was entirely down to attitude. Unless his injury affected his brain in some way that increased his ego, made him a complete non-tryer on the pitch and saying that his ex-teams were mince every time he moved on. If he'd applied himself he could have been a class act.