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Just as devils advocate.............. lets say Mothwewell vote yes but punishment from SFA sees them end up in Div 3. Will there still be withdrawals from Well society and people not buying season tickets? or do we just care that Rangers start in DIV 3 however that comes about?

i have a bad feeling about all of this. Startng to think that there is a story being concocted and Rangers will be business as usual.

Not forgetting Watson, Donnelly and Heron Maybe we will get a chance to beat them again this coming season!!!

Not sure what all this talk of Div 1 is. New team new start so to me that means Div3. Wouldn't all new teams have to start at Div 3? i think all the fans are asking is that newco get treated like any other team would, with no special deals because of who they are. ....................sorry, were.

I see your point Jim. Regardless of whether it ever gets to a vote or however it pans out the board of Motherwell FC can stand up and be counted by making it known how they stand on the subject. They do not have apportion blame or insinuate guilt merely state that " if any team, regardless of stature or financial influence, are forced into liquidation and reform as a new version of the old club then that new version of the club must star afresh from the bottom and work their way up to the SPL. Any comments on a vote can only be relevant to where a newco rangers should start. A Vote has no connection to the crimes Rangers may or may not have commited. The SFA/SPL are the ones who need to determine if Rangers are guilty of any crimes and punish accordingly. With repect to that, they owe an update on what Rangers punishment is to replace the "illegal" transfer embargo plus they need to determine what punishment to apply ( per FIFA directive ) for going to court. i think there may be a couple of other items in the works still to be determined if Rangers are guilty of as well.

I am in the camp of punish the crime appropriately and live with the consequences whatever they may be. I think that view has been stated in several different fashions. No one can predict the future so any scenarios from the "keep rangers in SPL" to " banish them forever" are all merely opinions. Most people will feel justice has been done as long as Rangers are given the appropriate punishement for anythign they are proved to have done wrong. Whatever happens after that people will be able to deal with however it turns out. What angers people is the thought of Rangers getting off lightly, just because they are rangers.

I think they also learned very quickly from the court ruling and have purposely left available punishmnet wide open and not retricted themselves to "available" options.

Too many pages to read through but I never realised ( til now ) that we have 2 shots at getting to the group stages of one of the euro tournaments. if we win our first tie then we are guranteed group stages of at least europa league. If we don't win that tie then we have another game to get to the group stages of europa. DAMN! thats scary how close we are to a real european adventure. Apolgies for not paying closer attention! Dammit Jenno just sign the damn thing!

considering he scored 2 goals lst saturday in such a short time then perhaps his "lack of interest" ranks along side our famous" downward spiral" this season.

now that would be icing on the cake but don't see Rangers losing to Utd us and St Johnstone. In saying that even beaitng rangers and ending up third would be very enjoyable

I telt ye!!

Some saying a point tonight won't help much. It may be the differnce of CL or not. That would put us 6 ahead. So Utd would ahve t beat at least one of the OF and us. if they tie both celtic and rangers then we go into the last game having clinched CL spotb eing 4 points ahead instead of only 3 ahead and ahving to grind out a draw or a win on the last day.

i'm hopin we can hang on to the players for euro then get soime money for them after we exit europe

This is yet another massive game. Despite all hte moaning etc on here what a season this has been...........lost count of the number of massive games. For the most part the team has stepped up to the plate. Just one more time please lads!!!!! Even just 1 point will mean Utd have to beat at least 1 of the old firm teams to make our last game of the season mean anything. Of course if we get 3 points off Hearts then Utd have to win all 3 remaining games. Thats a lot of pressure!!

Lets hope we are only going into 1 huge game. Beat hearts and Utd don't win we are CL bound!

Ach yir a mile oot !!!

I fully expect our performances to improve mightily now that the dynamic duo will be back in action together. We are hard to beat when we have the 6 guys below all playing. Which has been about 3 out of the last 9 games. 2 of those against the old firm in 1 goal defeats. The other when Las got sent off in the cup. We will have our best team available for the last 4 games and I think we will see that reflected in our results. Hately Hutch Clancy Hammil Jennings Lasley

I know we are in the driving seat to secure third place but i'd gladly take any help from the other teams. A lot of conversation has been concentrating on how good Utd are and how they have momentum etc etc but we can take that out of the equation if we can grind out 2 results against St Johnstone and Hearts. Doesn't have to be pretty just get the points. Realistically I see Utd ( even with their momentum ) getting a max of 4 points before they play us so they go into the last game with 56 points. So even if we royally screw up over the next 3 games we should still have one last chance at home to redeem ourselves. On a more positive note if we can beat St Johnstone and Hearts it's celebration time at fir park and we can clap ourselves onto the field So it's not about Utd it's all about us and can we do the business against St Johnstone and Hearts. I think we can.

i wasn't even goign to look in this thread.........glad I did though..........good to see all the positive relaistic responses. all the talk of us throwing away a big lead etc ..............all the teams started dead even!! All that matters is where you end up. and I stil think that wil be third.

Would be good to embarrass them so that they buck up a bit for playing against the other teams!!

You would think that Hammil and Lasley are seeing out their careers here so good chance they would sign. Not sure that there are any better teams interested in clancy so he would be likely to sign. I think Jennings is the only doubt. Hopefully he will stay to sample champions league football. I would imagine there would be offers given to Craigan and Hollis at least. I think people are divided on Craigan but I think it's worth keeping him.

where in florida are you?

Should be 9am kick off florida time then. You need to look closer or ask about i am 100% sure there wil be a pub or hotel where you can go see the game. I live in Austin and there are bars here that open early ..yes that early and even earlier.........to show games live on saturday and Sunday. Sometimes 10 bucks cover charge depending on how they are getting the game. Some pubs will advertise EPL games etc but will have a celtic or rangers fan club attached and they show games. you may want to search florida celtic or rangers fan clubs. of course you may be in remote area and not have access to pubs?? I'll let other hi tech saavy people answer the actual streaming question. good luck

If results go like i think, then a win against St Johnstone and a tie against Hearts and we got third! After Celtic game we should have full squad again and raring to go.

i think we will be clinch third after round 3. here is what I see for the first 3 games Dundee Utd 1 + 1 + 0 sitting on 51 St Johnstn 1 + 0 + 0 sitting on 51 Hearts 0 + 1 + 1 sitting on 50 Motherwell 0 + 3 + 1 sitting on 59 So with only 2 games left we would have it over and done with. If only it was that easy!!!