texanwellfan

Agree Fatcalf....................2nd place is all about the money. 3rd place is all about champions league.

I'd rather have him on our team than him be on another SPL team.

altohugh we do need to get our players tied up for next season if possible for european football. Then afte exiting europe get some money for any that transfer. I accept that we are a stepping stone to bigger clubs but as stated elsewhere numerous times we are a "selling" club. That means we need to benefit from our players moving on and not let them go on free transfers.

Rangers should be shafted on 2 counts and not be in the SPL 1. If they liquidate then new Co. should not be in SPL 2. If they get CVA and continue as is they should be relegated as punishment for illegal payments to players. ( such as happened in Italy i think ) So while all this heartfelt concern continues to pour in from media and politicans with repsect to the financial position of the team and worry over job losses I wonder what ther position is if asked about the cheating? is that to be overlooked too?? The whole thing stinks and shoul be sorted out now. Remains to be seen if the other teams have the balls to do it. Although stil a long way to go in this story, the CVA depends on agreement from creditors ( incl HMRC, right? ) interested to see how that goes! not sure if any precedent been set in dealings with other clubs or businesses.

So do Rangers have to pay back the prize money they won by cheating?

Since Rangers have been whining for years about joining English league why don't they just liquidate and go play there!

In fact, mathematically, Hibs and dunfermline are the only two teams that cannot get more points than us.

Not sure i follow that Logic El-pidge. ( assuming rangers are out of europe ) If cup winners are from top 5 then we are already in europe. Since we have already secured top 6(5) finish. If cup winners are out of top 5 ( hibs, Aberdeen, Ayr, St Mirren ) then we need to secure 5th place. With 27 points still up for grabs then we are a long way short of securing 5th place. Did you forget about the 5 post split games??

Surely they can come up with some sort of deal to keep the players for the european effort and then seel them once we are out of europe and still get a decent transfer fee as well as allowing the better palyers to move on up? probably easier said than done, I imagine.

.......And they play rangers next. Not sure how I want that game to go. Rangers win probably would be best. I think it is more important that we keep Dundee Utd and the teams below us at a distance than it is to catch Rangers. We do have to play them twice so currently within our control to catch them without help from other teams. So all in all I just want to see Dundee Utd, Hearts and St Johnstaone drop all the points they can regardless of who they are playing.

hopefully the players are excited about european football and are glad to be part of a good team. Each of them will get their turn eventually ( and more than one turn ) everybody won't play well all the time plus, as mentioned with suspensions and injuries it's up to each player to sieze the chance, once they are in starting line up, to play well enough to stay there. Once Craigan goes back in then Clancy may find it hard to get back in. But, again he will get another chance at some point.

that will depend on who you are talking to and who is listening !!

i also think that Celtic ( lennon ) didn;t so much claw back a 15 point deficit as mush as Rangers threw it away. I put that more down to Rangers than Celtic. When you are behind a team the only way you can catch them is by them screwing up. Admiteddly you have to win your games but you can't make up the defecit the team in the lead has to give up the defecit. ...... Unless of course the games you have against them cover the defecit....................and also read into my statements, we are 8 or 11 points clear in third, no one can make that up only we can throw it away!!.............We have 2 games left against rangers, therefore we can make up a 3 point defecit.

i think, now that we are shooting more from around the edge of the box and beyond it will help us break them down. Also with the options we have in attack I think they will struggle to nullify all of them. As I look back through their results, they do not score many, they have struggled against lower league opposiiton in cup games ( probably cause they don't score many goals ) and third intersting thing i noted was the fact that they have beaten dundee Utd twice this season. So maybe they will do us a favour the last game before the split and beat them again!!!

i've never quite worked out hpw they decide home and away games post split. Is there a defined procedure?

ok to steer the thread off of MJC and back to the game. No yellows to worry about. they don't carry over from the league games. I think paige and forbes may have got booked against queen's park so that's it. But fefinately foresee a very tight game with aberdeen not helping much in the way of providing any spectator enjoyment. However if we can get a goal in the first 20 mins i think it will make for a more entertaining game and a win for us. Hampden here we come!!!!

not really too worried what we get for our good players. Just as long as we sell them to teams outwith the SPL. Rather take less from an english or european team then sell to another SPL. Just doesn't make sense to sell your best assets to your competitors.

Well thats the good thing normally we have the old firm losses and more than one DOH!

Dramatic music plays TAN! TAN! TAN! and the curtain falls on this thread!

I agree that we are a selling club but if we can get second place or if we qualify for champions league by default it may require some re thinking by players and baord alike... 1. Do the players want to move and miss out on champions league? 2. Will we make enough money through our league poisiton fonish and being in europe to put us in the position where we do not have to sell a player at the end of this season? Based on our successful season and in anticipation of european soccer next season I hope we can hang onto our curent players ( Murphy included ) till we are out of europe but of course still be able to allow them to move on to bigger things ( perhaps in the Jnauary window? ) for decent transfer fees.

great record when you think that 5 of the 8 total losses are to the old firm.

For all we have a smal squad it seems to be now that if someone is out or having an off day somebody else steps up. eg craigan suspended....clancey in............daley off day ............hump steps in........let's hope we can kee that going through some of the suspensions. With the financial rewards it carries, we have to be aiming for second. but fully agree with previous post that we focus on one game at a time. Although the financial rewards are there it would just be soooooooooooooooo great to see our name in second spot in the league table!!!! COYW

Ok no more mention of the bridies, please!! unless you are goign tosend some over here.

1 goal is fine by me just win it!