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Good luck to Obika.

Im quite happy with that. Be good to get back to Fir Park for a friendly

To be fair - that was speculation on my part and none of us actually know why Butcher was offered terms.

Do you think he'll be wanting a move elsewhere if they stay up?

My brother said he was rotten when he was at Aberdeen

Just saw that on twitter

I'd also like to know what the well society option is going to be

A few people were calling for Ross and Ferrie to get game time. I assume Kettlewell rates them as they got on last game of the season. Someone has just said on pie and bov they think McGinn is fitter and faster than SOD even though he's older. I've never really thought about that tbh. I just think SOD is a much better player than he gets credit for at times. Personally. I'd like to see them both retained for us. The one I'm concerned about is Mugabi. Id also like to see another keeper signed. But on the other hand I think Ox has waited long enough for his chance. No need to apologise. Think we can just hope that we do decent business when the transfer window opens and there will be competition for places. I do think also our defence has been shaky for more than one season. We let more or less the same amount of goals in the season before. There's maybe just been more focus on it this season due to the long winless streak. I'd love to see Gent back with us even though it's probably never going to happen. We do need young defenders too.

The only one I've got concerns about is Mugabi. And tbh. They wont be a year older. They will be three months older than when the season finished. I can understand why we offered Butcher new terms even if it possibly wasn't the wisest decision. As for Ox. No one knows yet whether he will be first choice or not. Also. There are people who have been shouting for the youth to be given a chance. I absolutely understand why people are concerned. But there's a long way to go till August. I assume Kelly was offered terms and said no. But I don't know. Id be more than happy if Gent returned. And I do understand why people think our defence needs a complete overhaul. Re Kelly. I think it was time for him to go and I think most people knew he wouldn't be with us next season. Even though his form dipped for us he was always going to attract interest from elsewhere. I do think SOD is worth another year though. Agree. All about opinions.

To be fair if they are under contract there's very little the club can do. Plus Kelly and Butcher are away. Casey and Blaney are the ones still under contract?

I've only got two essays to go to finish the year... And I need to pass them both to finish this year (no pressure). I've been derailed slightly this week with studying because of my broken leg. (Hard to explain... The pain. But I do need to crack on). Crack maybe being the wrong word.

Yeah I hope so. In other news renewing my season ticket is going to be so much fun. I can't renew online as I'm a student. I'm just hoping my mum can take the proof I need to show and do it for me.

We need to find a team of Theo Bairs 🤣 not suggesting Theo isn't quality, the opposite. Actually depending on how the investment talks go we might have some more money to spend (or possibly not if the offer isn't suitable).

To be fair it was me that suggested that - and it's likely not the case given he sees the players much more than any of us. I would have thought it a bit odd though given the rest of the defence were offered terms if Mugabi wasn't. Particularly as Butcher who featured far less than he did was offered a new contract. (I don't know anyone at Fir Park and have zero inside info). I also don't think he'll be away if we have a bad start to the season - we often don't start the season well irrespective of who is or isn't playing.

Im sure there will be a deadline as to when they've to accept or not. Mugabi and SOD aren't the only people still to accept contracts offered to them. Surely players have the right to negotiate and look at any other offers before signing on. That's only fair.

Butcher is away and the only person who has signed on so far is McGinn.

I don't think Mugabi has been rotten from the off. I just don't think he's progressed. Also - keeping players doesn't mean we won't sign new ones. I'm not surprised at all that SOD and McGinn were offered new terms.

It was just a thought about why Mugabi has been offered terms. If you have an underperforming defence and you offer three of them terms and not the fourth I think that's a pretty strong message you are sending out. Plus as other people have said. We don't know what the terms are or whether Kettlewell sees Mugabi and others as back up options. Or if Mugabi will accept the terms offered.

I think so re Butcher. Good luck to him.

If you wipe the slate clean you risk leaving yourself with very limited options apart from youth. I don't think McGinn is shite and I don't think SOD is either. I think we are all going to have different opinions on that. I think Bevis is very good when he's on his game but when he's off it he's very poor. There's been rumours that Dundee utd are looking at Bevis but that's all they are. Plus Kelly has gone too. A new keeper might help the defence situation

I personally think offering Butcher terms was the decent thing to do - not expecting many people to agree with me. Think it's clear from the twitter video clip that Butcher wanted away - maybe wants to go back to England, he was wishing the club all the best for the future. Same with Slattery. Im happy that he's been offered new terms.

I understand how poor our defence was for part of last season. I don't think McGinn is a poor player though and I don't think SOD is either. I think SOD is far better than he gets credit for. Also. Just because they've been offered new terms doesn't mean we won't be signing anyone else. Or that the players are going to accept the terms offered.

I also think Spittal developed an awful lot under Kettlewell. Plus we had some very decent loan signings in Biereth, Vale and Gent. Id say Nicolson too.

He's signed plenty of players since he came in - even if he's made mistakes with his signings that hasnt stopped him making signings. Brian Caldwell said in his interview last week that the club had made a number of offers to players who don't play for us. Being immense in three games doesn't mean Bevis should be first choice. When he is off his game he's really poor.

You're right, I'm just trying to justify why Mugabi got an offer. However as I said as well. There are fans who do rate him and think he's better than SOD, Casey etc.