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They are Domino Nduja and Domino Marinara, will be announced tomorrow in a 2 for 1 deal
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I also had today in mind.
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The thing here is David, its a grey area, if it was done on these boards we'd probably be looking at removing them. They may be posted from someone taking part in the chat BUT and is a big but, that is a private conversation and there is nothing to say that the other party agreed to it and if any of the text was changed before posting, especially as some parts have been highlighted. So there could be legal ramifications for the poster at least if not the forum owner.
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I am aware that we have made profit since the WS have taken over but a lot of that was down to the sale of DT. We need similar to happen more frequently so we can have the money to invest where and when we want it. I am not for one minute saying that EB's money will make that difference. However if we can get him on board with the WS retaining 51% and a reduction of the money the WS have to put in or to buy the club back, then that would be a start. I support the WS and it's aims, I believe the club should be fan owned. However, before this investment talk came about we had heard nothing from the WS on how they were going to increase funds that it holds or needs to help the club grow. So yes, I can see why people say being fan owned isn't working but if we can get a deal that is right and someone with fresh ideas and replace the current Exec Board, I'd be happy to consider it.
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I have stayed quiet since the details were sent out from the Well Society. My first thoughts on the email started with the first line with them advising us to reject the offer, that isn't for them to decide what I do. I also read the statement from the Club. From there my thoughts turned to why do we have two vastly different opinions here and which one gains/loses the most. You could read the email from the WS and feel like it's throwing the toys out of the pram because it loses control of the club but didn't they have a vote that resulted with the members saying they'd consider losing the majority if the deal was right? That is up to us members to have our individual thoughts on it, find out any information we need and decide. Then you see that Dickie and Maureen Downie resign from the board for differences, so why hasn't the 3rd person that voted against not resigned? Why has Dickie not confirmed his resignation from the Exec Board? So we have in fighting on the WS, contempt apparently between the Exec Board towards the WS, so how can we possibly decide which statement is best for the club. I have been on P&B and read all the posts from EB and those that try to have a conversation with useful information (trying to ignore the likes of Busta, being Busta that we all know and love ) I have been encouraged by the fact that EB has taken on points from those conversations and is looking at not binning the offer but readjusting it slightly, whether that is enough to persuade folk it's the right or not will be up to them. We also have still to see what the WS has proposed to raise extra funds. When the football game came out, my thoughts were that they should have auctioned the places off rather than a set price, maybe this was done to make sure they covered their costs and made some money but in a time of cost of living crisis, the auction may have allowed other folk a chance. However, I was glad to see that those that did take part had fun. From the start pf the week where I was probably a definite no, I may be sliding nearer to a maybe if EB can get the adjustments right. Or the WS show they have something to encourage they can finance the club better in the future. However, if the WS do stay in control, the Exec Board need to acknowledge that and work properly with them not only as a failsafe but as a genuine part of running the club, so that may need the likes of Jay (only using that name as I don't the others, although I assume Amber has some of her Dad in her views to MFC) being on the board and making sure it's running to look after the club, finances and fans correctly. Probably one of my longer posts in a while, but if you haven't already, I'd suggest going on P&B and looking at the discussions between EB and Vietnam91 particularly amongst others.
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Not binned, it's the WS view it should be. They will put it out to vote probably around 1st July In a nutshell the investment is just shy of 2million over 6 years for 49% of the shares The first 300k would allow them, from day 1, the Chairmanship and 3 seats on the executive board with final say in any tied vote During the same period the WS would not only lose control but they would also need to invest around 1,5M. There is an option to buy back in 2026 for 660k but by that point the WS would have put in 400k. If the WS can't do it the Club gets 2nd call. For that to happen 30% of any transfer fee over 2M has to be held back to cover it
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BRIAN CALDWELL APPOINTED CHIEF EXECUTIVE 11:00 We can confirm that Brian Caldwell will join the club as Chief Executive on 2nd April 2024. Brian has a wealth of football experience spanning over almost 30 years, having served as Chief Executive of Ayr United, St Mirren and Shrewsbury Town in England. “I would like to take this opportunity to welcome Brian to Motherwell,” Chairman Jim McMahon said. “As one of the most experienced football Chief Executives who has worked in both Scotland and England, we feel Brian will be a huge asset to Motherwell Football Club. “The board and the Well Society are all looking forward to working closely with Brian when he starts in a couple weeks. “I also want to record my personal thanks to Derek Weir for stepping into the CEO role last year. Derek has now been involved with the club in various roles for over 14 years. “We are extremely grateful for the time commitment and the significant contribution he has made to the club during that period.” “I know how important Motherwell Football Club is to the local community, the fans and generations of families who support the club,” Brian Caldwell added. “I am delighted to be joining and to be part of the exciting future that Motherwell Football club have in front of them.” https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2024/03/22/brian-caldwell-appointed-chief-executive
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Pinning this until the end of March, so shouldn't be too hard to find. This is your chance to make sure that the Society has your up to date details.
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With some people saying they don't recieve the newletter and others saying they didn't get the option to vote, I thought I'd post this snippet from the latest email Updating your contact details We have listened to what you told us around how we communicate. A new, dedicated workstream has been set up involving Well Society board members and member contributors. The team are working to develop a new approach to how we keep you updated and engaged on the work of the Society and - importantly - how we give you more opportunities to ask questions and have your say. A key part of our work is ensuring we have the latest contact information for you, our members, and that we know what type of contact works best for you. Please help us by sharing your details and preferences using this form between now and the end of March.
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Apologies... Would, that's what I get for talking and typing at the same time, then not checking
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I am keeping an open mind, I just would rather see the WS maintain control, unless the offer is too good to refuse. I did say, I would change my mind if I thought the proposal was good.
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and that is an example of why, at this point I have said No to giving up ownership. I can't in good faith say I would consider saying yes, even if interested, we need the investment but we also need to have a Club to support in the future. Until we know who the investors are, what their background is, what baggage they already come with, then I won't be happy to say to the Well Society to give away ownership. I am not saying after this information is provided that I wouldn;t change my mind but that wasn't an option.
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So following on from the St Johnstone post, I do wonder what is in it for anyone wanting to invest in Motherwell. So it has got me thinking, if they just wanted to invest and take a back seat, providing guidance etc on how to move the club forward, would that be worth it too them? If it's 50/50 it's unlikely that things will get done, so no return If they get control of the Club, then they could look at selling off the ground (probably the only way to get their money back), doing a Boyle and giving the Ugly Sisters and give them back the use of the Cooper Stand for instance and alienate the fans even more, especially if they have no ties to the Club or surrounding area. There is no doubt the club is stagnating and we need to make one of the choices above or stay as we are and hope the Well Society can find ways to bring in more money, not only more money for the team but for the repair of the stadium or a move to a purpose built stadium probably with training facilities , so we dont' have extra outgoings. The next few months will be interesting, one way or another. A new CEO, a new 'Well Board and hopefully the 'Well Society with still some semblance of control for the fans, If the Well Society and Club asked us to vote on this today, I'd be hard pushed to say Yes to an investor. We need to see details, we need to see some protection for the club, we need to see what involvement the Well Society can have. Is it even worth given 51% of the Club away if they can't help steer us away from the rocks. Especially if the new owner doesn''t know or understand Scottish Football
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From the Scottish Gossip on the BBC. Not even warm in the seats yet and this is getting peddled. As a St J fan, I'd be worried, we have seen enough clubs think they can sell their ground and move to another. St Johnstone's prospective new owners could trade in McDiarmid Park for a newer model and make a quick profit - because the current stadium occupies a prime development site. (The Herald) From The Herald Big news this week as, for the first time since the club was put up for sale, there appears to be a deal in the offing. The big questions about any outside investment – especially when it's coming from overseas – is who is involved? And what is in it for them? Saints are in a very, very different position to other clubs who have needed outside investment – or a rescue package – in recent years. Above all else, what was once a piece of farmland out past the edge of town that was gifted to the club for free is now an enormously valuable asset surrounded on all sides by housing and commercial development and in a strategically well-connected site. The footprint of McDiarmid Park and its surroundings isn’t far off the size of the lower half of the Western Edge development just to the south of the stadium. It is truly massive and would be a developer’s dream. So the question comes in several parts – what is the club, which presumably includes the cash in the bank and the value of the land and stadium on top of the actual value of a Premiership football team, actually worth? Assuming it isn’t a philanthropic gesture, what kind of return on investment does an investor expect? What assurances are there that there isn’t some kind of asset stripping in mind, or an arrangement that separates the club from the stadium and leaves us perpetually in debt to an outside entity? The question of the stadium itself is interesting to me. I’m closer to 40 than I care to admit but even I’m too young to remember Muirton Park. It may be surprising to those a decade or more younger than me but when McDiarmid Park opened back in the late 80s it was cutting edge – the first of its kind and the template for a lot of what followed in stadium design in the 90s and 2000s. But as, like I, our home stadium approaches the end of its fourth decade, so too it starts to show its age, just as I do. There are bound to be some serious repair bills in the future – something that has been alluded to in the past. Muirton Park lasted 60 years – and while there’s little prospect of McDiarmid Park getting to a similar level of disrepair, it is no longer a place that’s at the forefront of modern stadium design. It would make sense to me if a new owner came in with a similar mindset to Geoff Brown in the 80s – trade in an old stadium for a newer model and find a way for the club to profit. A new owner may well then be able to realise a return on investment in the short to medium term. But if that was the plan, wouldn’t our renown housebuilder owner not already have gone down that route? Who is to say. For my money, I wouldn’t object to that kind of plan if it moved us to a new ground, fully enclosed on all corners, with stands tight to the pitch and a capacity in the 8-9000 range. Something closer to the town centre would be great too. That seems quite unlikely – and I think my plan of building the May 17 Memorial Thunderdrome on the Lesser South Inch is probably a little far-fetched – but it would be a great way to move the club forward once more. Refresh and renew – that’s what we need right now. Hopefully this process comes to fruition sooner rather than later, and I think we owe our current owners the benefit of our trust that he won’t sell out to someone with malign intent.
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Big question is who's doing the deals and recruitment for next season? A manager that's out of contract at the end of the season (if he lasts that long) Daws? COme May he's been here 3 years, surely he's not under contract oast then? Or our imaginary new CEO? Of the players listed McGinn, Spittal are the stand outs that we need to try and keep. I'd list Butcher if he can find the form he had when he came in. Young Ferrie, surely has to be a shout for at least a year, see how he develops. Bringing Oli Shaw back though probably tells us the thinking of Kettlewell on him. Kelly, I'll be sad to see him go but like other keepers we've had they never seem to get sold when at their best, whether that's down to lack of offers or otherwise. His confidence just now is pretty low and that could just be down to the way we are playing and the amount of goals we are losing, not all of them can be laid at his door. I like the look of Nicholson so far but need to see if he can last 90 minutes and provide the same as we are seeing in snippets. Devine and Montgomery could be decent shouts next season but only if they permanent signings, no point in weakening one side the pitch every few weeks. Gent would a brilliant signing if it's true he may be released by Blackburn but on current performance, they may want a fee. I was disappointed when I heard Halliday was getting a permanent deal a the end of the loan but that may prove to be a decent bit of business. Back to the original questions though who is doing the hiring and firing for next season?
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WTF is Bair playing at??? From the BBC Posted at 20:2420:24 GOAL! Motherwell 3-0 Ross County Theo Bair (penalty) Bair gets his goal! Cool as you like he sends Liam Kelly diving to his left and sticks the ball in the other corner. Six goals in five league games for Theo Bair. This is a mauling.
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I would happily take Brophy, as I would Simon Murray. .At least they have a reputation at this level.
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BBC reporting Rangers full-back Adam Devine - grandson of Scottish singing legend Sydney Devine - could be heading out on loan to either Motherwell or Kilmarnock.
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If this is true and he really is on 10K a week, no wonder we're not competing. We can use 6k a week better elsewhere. In the meantime one of those two will be helping Gronigen pay off the fee they are due us. https://twitter.com/Scoabin88/status/1753100536352772280/photo/1
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Can't get over that was 19 years ago....
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or a damp squib
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He really needs to think about whether that pitch at Killie will be good for his old knees....
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Welcome to the Club Jack. Like others not to impressed with his goal return but you know if he only scores one goal and that keeps us up, he'll have god like status forever.
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14 years... 14 years that laid buried and someone had to go and dig it up.. Thinking we could add a few since then... I nominate Alexander as the manager. Probably should be Hammy but he got left with this guys crap to start with.
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Callum Lang has left Wigan.... Unfortunately, he signed for Pompey.