El Grew

Refs do not cause us to lose games.

Same old same old. Van Veen must be sick of it. Does his business and gets no win bonus because of our diddy defenders. Kilmarnock had a -8 goal difference going into this and only scored 1 goal in 4 games.

As an old cartoon cat called Katnip used to say “Duh, that sounds logical”.

We’ve a decent record at Rugby Park: P115 | W45 | L51 | D19. A lot will depend on how we handle their plastic grass but no obvious reason why we shouldn’t be able to win.

Totally agree Gazzy. I watched the highlights of the games on Sportscene last night and Lundstram’s foul was referred to as “tactical foul”. That’s certainly a new slant as a few years back it used to be called a professional foul and there were calls to stamp it out by sending players off who resorted to it. As for our penalty against Livi it wasn’t. Neither the referee or his linesman on the Hunter Stand side had sight of it and were indulging in guesswork. I I was a corner kick at best. But hey ho we take it with thanks and move on as we’ve had enough that went against us in the past.

I’d agree with that. I think fan sites like this are great but they do afford fans the opportunity to have a rant and vent their feelings almost instantaneously either during or after games when their emotions are running high - not always a good time to be commenting on anything. I can remember after a game, whether we’d won or lost, played well or badly the only outlet for comment was in the pub afterwards with your mates.

Good post Spider. I thought out of the midfield that started the game young Cornelius was unfortunate to be subbed as he was the only one that got forward in the first half. Lamie’s passing was lamentable but in his defence he was having to be play-maker much of the time as Goss and Slattery went missing.

Agreed. Some are saying we need another striker (and maybe we do) but if we aren’t creating chances it won’t matter how many strikers we have. I felt for KVV today as he again battled manfully up front on nothing but scraps.

It’s been utter dross so far. No creativity at all from us. Stats show we’ve had 67% possession but we’ve done very little in the final third.

I’m with you on this. The one thing Efford has is pace and that will always worry defenders. If he could just add an end product he’d be a really good asset.

Grizzly I must say that’s one of your better ones.

Good common sense post.

Despite Livi’s poor record at Fir Park - P17 L10 W4 D3 - they will still be a hard nut to crack. I believe this game will provide a truer yardstick for us as they are one of the sides I consider to be in our peer group in the league. Hoping for a good positive performance and hopefully a win.

I don’t care what anyone says that’s a great signing for Arbroath.

A totally over the top reaction to one good performance and result. We’ve just appointed a rookie manager who has fallen heir to a largely poor group of players from the last management regime. Prior to Saturday, we were second best over 120 minutes against an Irish League team; very lucky to get 3 points at St. Mirren; no more than an average in the second half against St. Johnstone and despite the result and performance against Aberdeen, it was still clear that all of our old shortcomings are still there. Putting such totally unrealistic expectations on our new manager whilst he is in the foothills of his managerial career is just plain stupid.

Fans shouldn’t get too carried away. It’s just one game and as the old adage says, one swallow does not a summer make. For me, although the win was great and very welcome I was more interested in how we set up and played because this is a truer indicator of future performances and in this respect it was highly encouraging. However, given the turmoil over the past 9 months or so I would be more than happy if we retained our top flight status this season and laid a foundation for the future. Anything else would be a bonus.

I know it’s been suggested previously and criticised but I do think it could be worth taking Scott Allen onboard. I know he has had issues which are well-documented but he is 30 now and seems to have wised-up and he is quite a classy player on his day. We could offer him an initial 1-year deal with caveats built-in to protect the club with the possibility of an additional 1-year if things go well.

Absolutely delighted to see Stevie Hammell getting young McKinstry back even on a loan deal. Avoids bringing in English lower league journeymen. Nice one Stevie.

Great post mate.

I assume your having a laugh but if not then you need to keep out of the sun.

Ah when logical debate fails then start making personal jibes! It will be interesting to see how long all the bonhomie lasts when the performances and results don’t get better.

Sorry Yorky. I wasn’t having a pop at you there. It was just a general observation.

“The players will learn from this.” “We will learn from this.” “The players must learn from this.” “We will use this as a learning experience.” etc. etc. ad nauseam. Phrases straight from the book of football manager double-talk and drivel that are continually trotted out when teams lose. What a load of tripe. Players at a certain level such as ours, never learn anything and they just continue to repeat the same mistakes time after time. As Bill Shankly once said “Football is a terribly simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass.” He also said a football team is like a piano - you need 8 men to carry it and 3 who can play the damn thing. Well at present all we have are piano carriers. Stevie needs to try somehow to get us 3 players. Good luck Stevie.

The Alexander Project. Great title for a novel. Sounds like something Frederick Forsyth or John le Carre would have written. Lol.

Our chairman has been quoted today as saying: “He inspired us with not only his short-term plans to reshape the squad and adapt the style, but his medium to long-term vision around a fully integrated club and we felt this matched how we see the future of the club.” Exactly wtf does “fully integrated club”mean?!