David

Yeah, something isn't right with that photo. Either that or the current Celtic squad nabbed all the good clobber and poor Davie has been left with the winter range.

Yeah, I'm not sure he'd be wearing a jacket like that on a day like this where it's relatively warm. He looks like he's having his medical in the Arctic Circle.

Something to do with issues with his knee, which has resulted in a second opinion being sought, and potentially a renegotiation of the deal with us. Nonsense hopefully, although that photo of him at the airport looks like a photoshop to me I don't know what to believe any more. It's getting ridiculous.

Well, let's hope so, and let's hope it's all went smoothly for both the boy and for us. What I'd heard wasn't all that great, and sounded like it could have been problematic. Obviously just heresay though if he's already en route to Celtic's training camp. EDIT: Okay, I've seen the photo you're maybe on about....

Yeah, I've heard a few whispers. Nothing concrete enough to go about repeating mind you, but there seems to be some murmurings from both sides of the deal that this isn't going to go through as smoothly as we maybe thought. At this stage I'm just hoping we either get the player for another season or until January, or we get the fee that was mentioned. EDIT: Unless what I've heard is bollocks of course, and he has been photographed at the airport with the doctor, and everything is fine. There's every chance of that being the case.

Where did you see the photo of him at the airport?

He's not even signed yet as far as I know. His medical hasn't cleared.

So, rumours of problems with Turnbull's medical then, eh? Let's discuss that instead.

As mental as it may sound to folk like us, I wonder if the lad maybe doesn't fancy any move at all just now? Sometimes it's easy to forget that he's only 19, and is still a kid. Maybe he's not keen on moving away from family, or the pressure of being a Celtic player either? It's practically unheard of for a player at a club like ours to not just knock back the kind of dough Celtic were offering, but also to then go and knock back a team in the Premiership? Something seems a bit off about it all.

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I guess they could, in theory. But it would be up to Oxford to agree to that I think, as we've not really got that many other clubs looking as though they're willing to pay the developmental fee.

Yeah, as much as I don't like Celtic I don't think they'd be stupid enough to have the lad in a Celtic shirt beside Neil Lennon without the deal being done. Not like that's happened to them before

I assumed the clubs had agreed the fee already, otherwise the player wouldn't have been allowed to speak to Celtic?

Nothing is certain until the contract is signed and the deal is confirmed.

I don't think we can get a sell-on fee if the player is leaving under freedom of contract.

Of course not, we're a club who operate in the market of taking chances on guys like Gorrin, hoping we hit a jackpot every now & then and manage to find someone who's a good player and who's happy to then remain with the club for longer and improve their career before moving on. We'll win some, we'll lose some, and our batting average as far as financial return on such players isn't too bad at the moment. It's part of an overall business model that's seen us bring in some decent coin of late.

He already is according to certain elements of the Scottish media. Mark Guidi was punting the "lifelong Celtic fan" line a few nights back on the radio.

It would have been insanity to offer Gorrin a two year deal last season when he first joined us. He was coming to us after playing 12 games for a Romanian Premier League side.

If I was given the choice of maybe playing against a top side or two in Europe if my team made it past 105 qualifiers first, or playing against some of the best clubs in Europe, against some of the best players in the world on a regular basis I know what I'd be choosing. As I said, it could be that he simply doesn't quite have the confidence in his own abilities, which is a shame. Or, whisper it, maybe he's not as highly thought of as we all assumed. There was hardly the influx of bids for him that most of us assumed would be incoming. No doubt after a few good years at Celtic we'll be told how he's one of the best midfielders in Europe and that some huge clubs are watching him, before he eventually signs for Norwich or Southampton.

It wasn't but a week ago that most people were saying he'd likely not be a shoe-in for regular first team football at Celtic. I still think that's the case. In fact, if you look at Celtic's midfield and compare it with Norwich's midfield I think Celtic have the better players. I also don't buy this notion that playing a few games in Europe for Celtic is more of a selling point than playing against some of Europe's best on a regular basis. I had this same discussion with a Celtic supporting mate this morning. He said "Aye, but Norwich can't offer European football. Imagine playing against one or two of the biggest teams in Europe depending on if we get to the group stages and who we get in the draw." Some of the biggest teams in Europe? Like Liverpool, Manchester City, Spurs, Manchester United, Arsenal, and Chelsea? You mean the teams he'd be lining up against during a regular season in England? The same teams that Celtic would hope to get in the draw should they make it to the group stages of the Champions League? Unless the boy has went down there and quickly realised that he's not got what it takes at the moment to make a dent at that level I find this to be a strange situation. A move to Celtic is seen as a potential stepping stone to the big time of the Premiership by many players. Turnbull had the chance to bypass the stepping stone and go straight to the big time, working with a top, up & coming coach in Farke, earning more money, and getting the chance to test yourself against some of the best in the game on a near weekly basis. Even if he went to Norwich and it didn't work out, and he left in a few years time, he'd more than likely come out of the experience as a much better footballer than he will be if he stays in Scotland as part of a club that basically steamrollers 99% of the competition. He'll now go to Celtic, and if he does really well he may eventually earn a move to a lower end Premiership club....like Norwich? Yeah, fuck knows what he's thinking, but good luck to the lad whatever he does.

At the end of the day there's no kit that's going to please everyone. I like this seasons away kit, not so much the home kit.

Exactly. It may take him a bit of time to break through to starting eleven, but I think he's got the ability to do it. I also don't think that £3 million is quite as piddling an amount as some up here seem to think. Clubs like Norwich aren't really paying that for a guy who they won't use.

Will it be available sans sponsor is the main question. A sponsor would ruin the fuck out of that away shirt.

It's just you I think. We shouldn't be mentioning Celtic in any statements regarding Turnbull now, they're out of the picture.

Incredibly, their delusion knows no bounds. I've read a few comments this morning on various outlets that the reason he'll end up going to Norwich or somewhere similar is because Celtic have taken their deal off the table. Astounding.