Big Stall

I agree that we need better. If we can afford to get better players and keep them as squad men back ups i wouldnt be averse to that. Saying that, i expect both to be pretty high earners within our squad so for the money we are probably paying them, we need first team starters

I actually thought Kettlewells interview was a better watch today. It was a change from the norm & you could see he was visibly angry at the mistakes. Noted that he/the club protect the players rather than throwing them under the bus. I got the feeling he was going to let fly in the dressing room and hopefully boot some arses. That is certainly what the defence and the keeper are needing.

If you want job security, you dont become a football manager! A contract is there for a reason, it protects the manager for when he does poorly & gets the sack...... it also protects the club for when the manager does well and bigger opportunities come sniffing. There is absolutley nothing wrong with shaking the guys hand at the end of his contract, saying thanks for the service but we are going to try something new

Keep the points coming. Would take a draw right now. Another point closer to safety

Leaving aside the RL stuff that has happened to you or what has went on elsewhere, i think you are over-thinking this place. You are clearly on one side of the spectrum - SK is trying hard/SOD is a lovely guy/Slattery is a great player etc etc. That is your opinion and that is completley fine. You have every right to it & folks have a right to disagree. Where you are wrong however is that the boo boys are the only opinion tolerated. Have a look at the responses Steelboy, Yodo & MJC get and you will see there are plenty giving them it tight. Its a fans football forum and we dont all see things the same way. It shouldnt be an echo chamber for boo boys or happy clappers. When people post on a discussion forum they should expect to be challdnged. The one thing i would say is that if people are sending you PMs that are trying to chase you off or threaten or upset you in any way, report it to the mods. That behaviour shouldnt be tollerated.

He was very good last season. Has been below the standards he set this season. To the extent that is why some of the fan base are understandably questioning if it is time for him to be given a rest

Theres absolutley nothing wrong with having an opinion. The point is that goal keepers do get dropped when form dips

Thats not really an argument at all. Every club carries a reserve keeper. Reasons are to cover for injuries and suspensions & to give competition. Same as any other area of the pitch, if you dont perform & there is someone better then you lose your place. Simple. See Arsenal currently, Liverpool previously and even Joe Hart back in his day. I dont think anyone on these forums has ever suggested that Oxborough is going to be brilliant. All people have been questioning is why he hasnt been given a chance when Kelly has clearly not been performing at the levels he can. Now it might be as simple as Ox is not good enough. Or maybe he doesnt contribute at training or he could even be a bad egg in the camp. That is all entirely plausible. If he isnt good enough then why not bring in more competition in january. Given we paid a fee for this lad then its fair that supporters assume he must be half decent. My opinion (not in the know) is that Ox will be off, even if the club wanted him to stay- which doesnt look likely. You dont hang around as an understudy and get zero game time when the number 1 is in poor form. It would be interesting to hear how his relationship is with kettlewell. Can imagine its a kick in the baws every week being on the bench.

In a round about way you have raised a very good point. If our number2 keeper isnt good enough to get a chance infront of an under performing/out of form number 1, then why didnt he look to bring in another keeper in January?

I dont see it either. To be honest he should have been dropped/rested/taken out the spotlight back in November. Greenock aside, he hasnt been too bad the last set of games. I thought he had turned the corner and was hopefully coming into some form.

Cant see us offering the Ox a new contract, if he had something Kettlewell fancied we would have seen him by now. If we did offer him a contract, why would he take it when he hasnt had a look in while the number 1 has struggled for form. Either an extension for Kelly or two new keepers i reckon.

A fuck shit pile of crap tonight. No fight, no skil, nothing to offer. A horrific performance for most in our colours. Wont fix things but kelly needs 'dropped' or 'rested' or however we want to slap his arse. He has been a shaddow of himself all season & if the reserve keeper is so bad that he doesnt deserve a shot...... well thats on MFC Not just kelly. The rest need a good hard look at themselfs

In the big bad world, if you project your losses early doors & plan for them then its not really anything to worry about. Unexpected losses are however a different story. *except in the world of internet forums

Given only 2 weeks ago we started a game with 1 striker on the pitch & no recognised strikers on the bench then i have no issue with Shaw being here as an option. I would be very surprised if he is considered a starter, but as a squad and bench filler then he is better than heehaw

Not bad for a team that were getting relegated a few weeks ago

Im not a fan of his but i think he has been very good both Saturday and lastnight. Long may it continue

Great night, great to watch. We destroyed County and it could have been by a far wider margin. Spittal gets MOTM for those goals but the pleasing thing for me was how well the team played. I didnt see any performers standing out miles better than anyone else - probably because they were all at it & really working well as a unit. Onwards to Friday...... She wore.....

The pitch was the worst its been on Saturday for years. Have to go back to the McGhee era when it really was a proper disaster. Once we got it fixed up, we have never looked back, but Saturday was a regression. No doubt about it. Whether thats to do with the summers investment, groundstaff or different techniques, no idea but it didnt look good

But that hes 'trying hard' so he gets a pass for not doing an essential part of his job.....

You have said this or something similar in a number of posts now. In any job, you can try as hard as you like but if you cant pull off the goal despite trying then it is only right that people question abilities.

To be fair, Paton isnt the only pish one we have. They all did well today but by christ the standard has fairly dropped off in the last 5 - 10 years

Good performance, take a point at the start of the day. We were the better team although not by huge amounts. The biggest positive for me today was that we actually looked like we were playing as a team. One with a shape and purpose. Compared to some of the shite we have seen served up this season, its a major improvement. Bair getting better with confidence. Will be good to see with more attackijg options. Really could be doing with 3 points on Tuesday Mon the 'well!

Not a kettlewell boo boy but if we cant sign 1 striker in the window to replace/compliment or even give competition to the only striker we have (who was signed as a 3rd option prospect) then that is another black mark. Granted, some of that may be due to others at the club but its a shambolic state of affairs

Brophy doesnt fire the imagination, but he's better than heehaw

No idea what he gets paid but i thought we paid money to sign him. Assume we planned on selling kelly & would have a good keeper in the Ox ready to step in. Would make sense that he is on a decent salary. Which still might be nothing like the figure quoted.