Dossertillidie2 Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 Rumour mill suggesting we have offered £100k for Gerard garner of fleetwood. Highly doubt that given we are having to move players on to get players in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyMax Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 If Tony Watt could contribute to improving the team (which he did before) I'd have him back. If Tony fuckin'' Straker could help keep us up i'd have him back an' aw'. OK, I maybe went a bit far, but the question is, is Tony Watt a better footballer than those we have playing up front just now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgey Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 29 minutes ago, Dossertillidie2 said: Rumour mill suggesting we have offered £100k for Gerard garner of fleetwood. Highly doubt that given we are having to move players on to get players in Can’t say I’m inspired by that. It makes sense in that Fleetwood are looking to clear out having made 2 big signings today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chanzeypopz Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 Im sort of on the fence 🤔 Yeh i didnt really like the way he left either but he had very good chemistry with KVV and also scored alot of goals. Id be willing to forgive him if we could go back to that 🤷♀️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermarv Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 I don’t think he’ll be here we’ve moved onto another target. I loved him when he was here and was brilliant we all know that. However he’s moved on to a team in the same league and hasn’t recreated that form he had with us. Risky signing but if a massive twist happened as much as I dislike him for how he left I’d back him if he proves me wrong, he’ll have to win over a majority of the fan base and wouldn’t go down to well with most imo. Be a bad mistake from the club at first definitely but it could work but it won’t happen I don’t think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dossertillidie2 Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 its a non starter. Typical agent play trying to stoke the fire at st Johnstone and st mirren to make a move i actually think he would jump at coming back but don’t see him being a hammell signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkyred Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 I’d take anyone for a few months if they kept us up this season, it’s not a lifelong contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 9 hours ago, Dossertillidie2 said: its a non starter. Typical agent play trying to stoke the fire at st Johnstone and st mirren to make a move i actually think he would jump at coming back but don’t see him being a hammell signing You're probably right. St Johnstone will try to bolster their already huge squad by bringing in someone like Zak Rudden. The clock is ticking and we really really need to do business. I'll reserve judgement until midnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie73 Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 I see the big guy Devlin has left Fleetwood, decent at Accies but injured at Aberdeen, worth a punt for six months, don’t know about his game time fitness level, got to be better than Sol and Lamie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 12 hours ago, Dossertillidie2 said: He wanted to stay with us and would have signed for less than dundee utd ended up paying him but Alexander didn’t want him and said he could leave two sides to every story This isn't true at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 He made it clear he wanted to leave months and months before he eventually departed. Just part of his nomadic career style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 Hammy said: We spoke with the media team this morning and they ran a few names past me that were getting linked with us. Some of the players we hadn't even heard of before. There you have it folks, not even our Head of Recruitment (Nick Daws) is dealing in transfer business for us these days. Why isn't Daws dealing with this via the media team? We truly are an amateur outfit at best. We're also trying to sign Garner for a five figure fee, which means Mandron is broken already. 'Great' scouting or bad luck? Some transfer info here: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/transfer-deadline-live-rangers-celtic-29090531 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 12 minutes ago, wellfan said: Hammy said: We spoke with the media team this morning and they ran a few names past me that were getting linked with us. Some of the players we hadn't even heard of before. There you have it folks, not even our Head of Recruitment (Nick Daws) is dealing in transfer business for us these days. Why isn't Daws dealing with this via the media team? We truly are an amateur outfit at best. We're also trying to sign Garner for a five figure fee, which means Mandron is broken already. 'Great' scouting or bad luck? Some transfer info here: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/transfer-deadline-live-rangers-celtic-29090531 Im not sure I follow? My reading of Hammys comments are that we would appear to be getting linked with players he hasnt heard of, so its all rumour and speculation. Hammell and presumably Dawes will still be dealing with the recruitment side of things. He just isnt going to comment until there is something to tell. Re Mandron, Im not sure how anyone at the club could foresee a new signing getting injured in training? Thats just bad luck and typifies the way things have been going for us this season. Unless of course you are suggesting he already had the injury and it wasnt picked up in the medical? If that had been the case, I wouldnt have expected him to last 90 mins at Arbroath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted January 31, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 12 hours ago, wellfan said: Because Alexander lived in a fantasy land of his own stubborn hubris, which ultimately cost him his job. You realise that your whole "Alexander living out his fantasy" stuff is really weird, right? You initially said that "the club is now financially crippled because they let Alexander live his arrogant fantasy" when someone mentioned some of our players being signed on long-term contracts. Do you honestly believe that it was Alexander who dictated that we start offering longer term deals to players who the club believed may have some sell-on value? That was clearly a direction that the board wanted to move in to try and put an end to the constant rebuilding of the team every summer. A decision that was widely applauded by the fans who were getting fed up seeing us sign someone on a one year deal only for them to do well then piss off sharpish for nothing. Sure, Alexander was given a contract extension at the wrong time, but he'd have been a total fool not to accept it. As for what cost him his job, it wasn't anything to do with "stubborn hubris." I understand that his self-confidence seems to rub you the wrong way for some bizarre reason, but guess what? You need to have a level of self confidence, or dare I say arrogance to be a football manager at this level. He lost his job because the club panicked after we lost in Europe and the fans went mental. Absolutely a mistake, considering we were days away from the league season starting. And we're paying the price for that now. 12 hours ago, Robbos boy said: Don't think we got him for nothing, would have got a good signing on fee and good wages. Don't believe this guff that Alexander didn't want him, how many clubs has Watt engineered a move from. Anyway he's not coming thank god so let's get behind the team and any new signings on Wednesday. Yeah, but we didn't pay a transfer fee, which is something we got when he left for United eventually. Bottom line is, we got a player who most had low expectations of and managed to get a decent run out of them. It was a deal that certainly paid off for the club, and for the player financially. 10 minutes ago, wellfan said: Hammy said: We spoke with the media team this morning and they ran a few names past me that were getting linked with us. Some of the players we hadn't even heard of before. There you have it folks, not even our Head of Recruitment (Nick Daws) is dealing in transfer business for us these days. Why isn't Daws dealing with this via the media team? We truly are an amateur outfit at best. We're also trying to sign Garner for a five figure fee, which means Mandron is broken already. 'Great' scouting or bad luck? Some transfer info here: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/transfer-deadline-live-rangers-celtic-29090531 Wait, what? You read Hammell saying that he had a conversation with the media team who mentioned some names we're being linked with in the press, and that some of the players mentioned were not on our radar as somehow meaning our Head of Recruitment isn't dealing in transfer business? I'm interested to hear you break down the thought process behind that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 32 minutes ago, wellfan said: Hammy said: We spoke with the media team this morning and they ran a few names past me that were getting linked with us. Some of the players we hadn't even heard of before. There you have it folks, not even our Head of Recruitment (Nick Daws) is dealing in transfer business for us these days. Why isn't Daws dealing with this via the media team? We truly are an amateur outfit at best. We're also trying to sign Garner for a five figure fee, which means Mandron is broken already. 'Great' scouting or bad luck? Some transfer info here: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/transfer-deadline-live-rangers-celtic-29090531 Strange take on this .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MearnsWell Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 We’re now out the running for Watt:: https://twitter.com/scotsunsport/status/1620383650050351104?s=46&t=bm-w2GUczNoIL1v3yZ920A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkyred Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 21 minutes ago, MearnsWell said: We’re now out the running for Watt:: https://twitter.com/scotsunsport/status/1620383650050351104?s=46&t=bm-w2GUczNoIL1v3yZ920A Not really a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretzel Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 Scott Burns said last night it was likely we weren't interested. However with the teams listed it would be madness to loan to a relegation rival, while St Mirren would probably be the likely destination should he stay in Scotland and it would allow him to add to his shirt collection and help him on his way of reaching his goal of playing for every Scottish Premiership side. A Belgian top flight team has made an official approach so I wouldn't be surprised if he heads there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MearnsWell Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 Shields to Queens Park: https://twitter.com/record_sport/status/1620390331869954051?s=46&t=VAjrYBbAJaueoeiBk9RoXQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 54 minutes ago, Great Balls of Shire said: Strange take on this .. It’s called trying to stoke the fire off bullshit on a fans forum on deadline day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, David said: You realise that your whole "Alexander living out his fantasy" stuff is really weird, right? You initially said that "the club is now financially crippled because they let Alexander live his arrogant fantasy" when someone mentioned some of our players being signed on long-term contracts. Do you honestly believe that it was Alexander who dictated that we start offering longer term deals to players who the club believed may have some sell-on value? That was clearly a direction that the board wanted to move in to try and put an end to the constant rebuilding of the team every summer. A decision that was widely applauded by the fans who were getting fed up seeing us sign someone on a one year deal only for them to do well then piss off sharpish for nothing. Sure, Alexander was given a contract extension at the wrong time, but he'd have been a total fool not to accept it. As for what cost him his job, it wasn't anything to do with "stubborn hubris." I understand that his self-confidence seems to rub you the wrong way for some bizarre reason, but guess what? You need to have a level of self confidence, or dare I say arrogance to be a football manager at this level. He lost his job because the club panicked after we lost in Europe and the fans went mental. Absolutely a mistake, considering we were days away from the league season starting. And we're paying the price for that now. I wrote elsewhere over a year ago that Alexander would go down as one of the worst managers we’ve had over the past 15 years or so, and I stand by that. Because of him, and I recognise he was enabled by the Board in some of his decisions, we’re pretty rubbish and have been for sometime. That’s a fact. Look at the stats since the start of 2022. At the same time, we can also differ on opinion regarding our takes on his personality and fantasies. What’s important is that it wasn’t a mistake to sack/mutually consent him; it was a mistake to not sack him sooner. 1 hour ago, David said: You read Hammell saying that he had a conversation with the media team who mentioned some names we're being linked with in the press, and that some of the players mentioned were not on our radar as somehow meaning our Head of Recruitment isn't dealing in transfer business? I'm interested to hear you break down the thought process behind that one! My thought process on that post was the desire to bait a lot of people who think our club is a Mickey Mouse club, which worked. Makes for a more exciting transfer deadline day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted January 31, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 8 minutes ago, wellfan said: It’s called trying to stoke the fire off bullshit on a fans forum on deadline day. It's called nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkyred Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 25 minutes ago, MearnsWell said: Shields to Queens Park: https://twitter.com/record_sport/status/1620390331869954051?s=46&t=VAjrYBbAJaueoeiBk9RoXQ I think he will do well there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 If Shields away I wish him well. I don't rate him but some of the abuse the lad took was ridiculous. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted January 31, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 21 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: If Shields away I wish him well. I don't rate him but some of the abuse the lad took was ridiculous. Especially when those same people giving him abuse are usually the ones who bang on about "all I want is a player who gives 100% for the shirt" which is exactly what Shields did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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