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1 hour ago, Mad Dog said:

Bevis' confidence certainly seems to be coming back and he had another really good game. He's now much more willing to drive out of defence with the ball which he's actually pretty good at. By contrast he's been passing the ball on / getting rid and immediately taking backward steps for the past few months.

Im not a fan of his but i think he has been very good both Saturday and lastnight. Long may it continue

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2 minutes ago, witchfindergeneral said:

Oli Shaw back... hopefully he stays on the bench as 3rd choice. Imagine wee Ferrie will get loaned out again now.

 

As much as I like Kettlewell, he does get a hard on for his former players and it is frustrating.

Who are the former players, other than Shaw and Paton?

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12 minutes ago, bobbybingo said:

Who are the former players, other than Shaw and Paton?

Spittal, he's been different class since around Christmas but he was honking at points when the rest of the team was as well.

Paton has been good in recent weeks and has a found a role that suits him but he was anonymous in so many games prior.

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24 minutes ago, witchfindergeneral said:

Oli Shaw back... hopefully he stays on the bench as 3rd choice. Imagine wee Ferrie will get loaned out again now.

 

As much as I like Kettlewell, he does get a hard on for his former players and it is frustrating.

Which is a slap in the face to Ferrie IMO. Youngster or not he can’t offer us any less than Shaw? Surely? 

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2 minutes ago, witchfindergeneral said:

Spittal, he's been different class since around Christmas but he was honking at points when the rest of the team was as well.

Paton has been good in recent weeks and has a found a role that suits him but he was anonymous in so many games prior.

In fairness, he didn't bring Spittal in, and even when he wasn't at his best, I don't know who would've replaced him.

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16 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

I hope he gets confidence from seeing Bair progress and kicks on. 

He had started to get better and had notched a couple of assists as well. His finishing is questionable to say the least. Would like to hope that he will stop being booed on to the park though and hopefully he does contribute, but he shouldn't be getting a chance to feature ahead of Vale as things stand.

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28 minutes ago, MJC said:

Which is a slap in the face to Ferrie IMO. Youngster or not he can’t offer us any less than Shaw? Surely? 

I agree. Shaw offered the square root of fuck all and Kettlewell has rewarded him for that. Let's hope it's a new year, a new him. 

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I like SK, I think he’s done a good job since he came but what he sees in Ollie Shaw is beyond me. 
Bair is doing really well, the lad Vale looks like a potentially great loan deal, we have young Ferrie as back up who I think has looked decent and deserves more time on the park and Obika stealing a wage until he gets fit again. 

you never know, he might be a new player since I last saw him but I doubt it.im sticking by my view of him as the 2024 version of John hendry.

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48 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

Personally I think it's the decent thing to do to support someone through an injury and not just cut their loan short. 

That’s fair enough. But at the same time it’s also the decent thing to do to give our own youth players their chance rather than loans that haven’t worked previously, for whatever reason. 

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It's another body if nothing else and if true that we have got shaw on much reduced terms then you can see why kettlewell has went for it.the bar is pretty low on his previous showings so if we can get anything out of him it'll be a bonus.

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39 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

Perhaps Kettlewell doesn't want to put a 18 year old forward with very little first team experience straight into the first team given the league position we've been in lately. Obviously he rates him as he's been on the bench for the last couple of games. 

Absolutely. Mark Ferrie looks nowhere near ready to step into the first team, even as a sub. He only had very limited gametime at Stenhousemuir. He may be a good prospect and hopefully, we'll develop him, but he needs time. 

Oli Shaw has some nice touches and had a couple of assists but he doesn't look to be a finisher. Something strange about the loan deal,as has been alluded to.

As things stand, the Bair is our No 1, with Vale looking to be a decent No 2, albeit on limited evidence. He looked sharp and pacy on Tuesday and took his goal well. Defenders won't push him around either. 

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13 minutes ago, steelboy said:

We will probably sign him in the summer and extend Obika as well.  

Yeah, and we'll probably double season ticket prices, replace the pitch with shitty plastic, paint the stairs with paint that never dries, and put marbles in the pies and pish in the drinks. Probably.

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7 minutes ago, fizoxy said:

Yeah, and we'll probably double season ticket prices, replace the pitch with shitty plastic, paint the stairs with paint that never dries, and put marbles in the pies and pish in the drinks. Probably.

Tbf they did increase season tickets, fuck the park up and put stupid railings on the stairs the last couple of summers so you never know. 

I don't use the pie stalls but people around me seem to love them and can't go 25 minutes without one so they must be decent. 

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1 hour ago, fizoxy said:

Yeah, and we'll probably double season ticket prices, replace the pitch with shitty plastic, paint the stairs with paint that never dries, and put marbles in the pies and pish in the drinks. Probably.

And the rivers of pish will flow again down the stairs in the East Stand.

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2 hours ago, grizzlyg said:

All I would say was of those 16 appearances how many were starts?  I don't see him starting many but it at least gives cover for Bair and Vale as I wouldn't rely on Obika being fit

We are actually unbeaten in the games “Super Oli “ has started…….the rest have mainly been 70/80 mins plus when we were chasing games

Obviously SK agin feels he is someone he can work on

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