texanwellfan Posted January 27, 2024 Report Share Posted January 27, 2024 2 minutes ago, MJC said: But we didn’t win either, and we should have. That’s what is so frustrating. “If” and “perhaps”. We’ve been saying this for nearly five months now. We need to start winning games and putting points on the board especially in games against our peer sides like St.Johnstone, Ross County and Dundee. Scraping draws with the last kick of the ball or only drawing games we have dominated just isn’t good enough. I don’t think anyone will disagree with your last statement. However, some people are willing to give SK time to fix it and some are not. I’m in the give him time camp but I’m not going to try and convince others to think the same way as me. We all have our different view on things should be fixed and despite some jabs at you, I’m sure you will be delighted when we do get it fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted January 27, 2024 Report Share Posted January 27, 2024 4 minutes ago, MJC said: We need to start winning games and putting points on the board especially in games against our peer sides like St.Johnstone, Ross County and Dundee. I suppose St Johnstone and Ross County might feel the same, given they're below us. The Great Levein has certainly brought the beautiful game to Perth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted January 27, 2024 Report Share Posted January 27, 2024 You have to take each game in isolation, and with that, a point there is never terrible, especially with the squad situation. We were a shambles for their goal, and looked so brittle from set pieces. It looked miles offside to me, and the dodgy var image they showed was not convincing in the slightest. The ref was a fucking clown all game. Outside of that we were the better team, but only managed to cut them open a couple of times, in each case with excellent, fast, passing moves. But we paid the price for having just one striker. Paton will get stick, but he and spittal were constantly trying to make something happen, and put in a power of work. Butcher looked better, but has to cut out the nonchalance on the ball, as it nearly cost us dearly. Halliday was a calm presence, but we didn't get him involved enough, and Nicholson looks handy. Miller is a class act. Shout out to Mcginn, he was excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted January 27, 2024 Report Share Posted January 27, 2024 1 minute ago, bobbybingo said: Watch you don't put your back out moving those goalposts. Get Tam Courts to help you, he's at a loose end the now. Kettlewell had an extremely favourable run of games last season with 14 games where 9 of them were against bottom 6 teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderwell Posted January 27, 2024 Report Share Posted January 27, 2024 12 minutes ago, steelboy said: Due to the players he inherited. With his own team it's 0.95 points per game and his overall record for us and RC is 1.06 ppg over almost 100 games. The players he inherited were on an absolute downer. But just pick and choose the stats to suit yourself. You are the problem because it is not black (as you are) or white (everythings great) The objective fan notes it's somewhere between the two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted January 27, 2024 Report Share Posted January 27, 2024 Just now, texanwellfan said: I don’t think anyone will disagree with your last statement. However, some people are willing to give SK time to fix it and some are not. I’m in the give him time camp but I’m not going to try and convince others to think the same way as me. We all have our different view on things should be fixed and despite some jabs at you, I’m sure you will be delighted when we do get it fixed. I’m split on SK to be honest. On one hand I don’t like the idea of us changing yet another manager in the middle of a season and believe we do need some continuity. But on the other hand we have won one league match in eighteen and only scraped a win against lower league Alloa in the Cup. The football we are playing is dismal and we look poorly coached and managed. Either way something has to give. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted January 27, 2024 Report Share Posted January 27, 2024 4 minutes ago, steelboy said: Kettlewell had an extremely favourable run of games last season with 14 games where 9 of them were against bottom 6 teams. Aye, that's why he was brought in, because we were cruising with a fantastic squad playing out of their skins. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelmaninOZ Posted January 27, 2024 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2024 The gaffer says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted January 27, 2024 Report Share Posted January 27, 2024 I thought we deserved to win today and overall played well , particularly in the second half. It's not the win we'd have deserved but it's another point nudging us further away from Livingston. Appreciate the 1 league win in XX games comments. My thoughts are in the last 10 games played we've won 2. drawn 6 and lost 2. I don't think we should be jumping over the manager for this. We're 9th in the league which is probably about right for the size of our club. Of course I want to see us winning and with a bit more quality about us I think we will. With players coming back from injury and some reasonable new boys in we may just kick on and win a few games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzyB Posted January 27, 2024 Report Share Posted January 27, 2024 I only caught the second half (and it was skipping relentlessly at that) so can't say too much. We looked okay without being spectacular or terrible. We keep above them for now, but our lack of options up top is really costing us. The next couple of weeks are absolutely huge. We need some speedy business in the transfer window, and then we have two very winnable league games followed by a chance to get into the Scottish Cup Quarters. Three wins would be spectacular, but given it is now 1 win in 19 games (!!!!!!!!), I can't see it. Let's see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted January 27, 2024 Report Share Posted January 27, 2024 7 minutes ago, bobbybingo said: Aye, that's why he was brought in, because we were cruising with a fantastic squad playing out of their skins. The players weren't playing for Hammell but they were good players. Even under Hammell the margins were slim. Most weeks Kettlewell had 8 or 9 outfield players of a good standard which will get you to midtable in this league. Kettlewell chose to prioritise Paton over Cornelius and commit funds to Obika before the window even opened. He's the one who will pay the price because it's either win or get sacked now and we don't have a win in us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennyc Posted January 27, 2024 Report Share Posted January 27, 2024 37 minutes ago, steelboy said: Courts took Dundee United from the Championship into Europe. He's got a far better record than Kettlewell. So factually incorrect on both counts. Care to acknowledge that? Any success he had in Management was in lower league football. It was Ferguson that managed Kelty to SPFL promotion. In the Championship, Courts was in temporary charge of Utd for one game as Mellon had CoVid. They lost How about his time (4 months) in Hungary? Or do we just ignore that? The man you hold in such high regard has walked out on one Club and upon his Managerial return he left two others by Mutual Consent within a five month period. That is some CV. And at least one of your other two suggestions has already refused our approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderwell Posted January 27, 2024 Report Share Posted January 27, 2024 3 minutes ago, steelboy said: The players weren't playing for Hammell but they were good players. Even under Hammell the margins were slim. Most weeks Kettlewell had 8 or 9 outfield players of a good standard which will get you to midtable in this league. Kettlewell chose to prioritise Paton over Cornelius and commit funds to Obika before the window even opened. He's the one who will pay the price because it's either win or get sacked now and we don't have a win in us. Cornelius was offered a contract and turned it down. Do you fact check anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted January 27, 2024 Report Share Posted January 27, 2024 3 minutes ago, steelboy said: The players weren't playing for Hammell but they were good players. Even under Hammell the margins were slim. Most weeks Kettlewell had 8 or 9 outfield players of a good standard which will get you to midtable in this league. Kettlewell chose to prioritise Paton over Cornelius and commit funds to Obika before the window even opened. He's the one who will pay the price because it's either win or get sacked now and we don't have a win in us. I thought Cornelius said he wanted to move south? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted January 27, 2024 Report Share Posted January 27, 2024 Just now, bobbybingo said: I thought Cornelius said he wanted to move south? He wanted a decent contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted January 27, 2024 Report Share Posted January 27, 2024 1 minute ago, steelboy said: He wanted a decent contract. How much was he looking for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted January 27, 2024 Report Share Posted January 27, 2024 Just now, bobbybingo said: How much was he looking for? I was told he got a poor offer compared to others in the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted January 27, 2024 Report Share Posted January 27, 2024 1 hour ago, steelboy said: 1 win in 18 games. Get him to fuck. 3 defeats in 11 with draws away to Celtic, St. Mirren, Hibs, St Johnstone twice. If we win our next two home games we are on a pretty good run. Of course we have to win them but now is hardly the time to get rid of the manager. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted January 27, 2024 Report Share Posted January 27, 2024 I think Halliday and Nicholson will improve the team. From the limited initial showings they look like they might add a little more skill to the team. That combined with having Miller back should help to give us a bit more composure in midfield. Bair seems to have improved and has now chipped in with 6 goals but we need some help for him. Gent performs well up the left side although his deliveries today were not up to his usual standard. Whilst we are struggling to get a few wins under our belt I believe there are a number of positives at the moment. The next two games could go a long way to defining how the season pans out but the main objective is to finish no lower than 10th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted January 27, 2024 Report Share Posted January 27, 2024 6 minutes ago, steelboy said: I was told he got a poor offer compared to others in the squad. Depends who the others were, but I suppose hair doesn't come cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purestate Posted January 27, 2024 Report Share Posted January 27, 2024 59 minutes ago, steelboy said: I like it when we win games which is why I'm fed up with the current chancer manager. It's the people who seem happy enough to watching losing football every week as long they get their calender signed and a few wee videos to watch on their phone every week that are the problem. As well as a Man of the Match poll could we introduce a Miserable bastard of the week poll? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelmaninOZ Posted January 27, 2024 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2024 1 minute ago, purestate said: As well as a Man of the Match poll could we introduce a Miserable bastard of the week poll? Guess who would win it every game 😁🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted January 27, 2024 Report Share Posted January 27, 2024 18 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said: 3 defeats in 11 with draws away to Celtic, St. Mirren, Hibs, St Johnstone twice. If we win our next two home games we are on a pretty good run. Of course we have to win them but now is hardly the time to get rid of the manager. He's already had multiple get out of jail cards. 2 shots on target today. None at all in the second half. We are not improving and if we don't beat Kilmarnock that should be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted January 27, 2024 Report Share Posted January 27, 2024 30 minutes ago, dennyc said: So factually incorrect on both counts. Care to acknowledge that? In this league Courts has a better ppg than Kettlewell and has achieved a European qualification. To me that's a better record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderwell Posted January 27, 2024 Report Share Posted January 27, 2024 1 minute ago, wellgirl said: Don't think he's a chancer to be fair. Theres nothing about Kettlewells demeanour in interviews that suggests he wants us to be at rock bottom. I know. Derek Adams on the other hand........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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