fizoxy Posted yesterday at 03:07 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 03:07 PM We shouldn't abandon our process because of one unfortunate issue. We aren't the first club to hire a manager from another country in our division, never mind the prevalence of foreign managers across all the leagues in Europe. I don't know how many of those left after 12 weeks because of a family issue, so it's not fair to assume that any manager from outside of the central belt is a flight risk for that reason. There's nothing to say thar out process won't lead us to a Scottish manager, but I don't think we should tear things up off the back of one incident. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted yesterday at 03:17 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 03:17 PM 15 minutes ago, wellfan said: It’s obvious that you’re trying to misrepresent my original post above as xenophobic, and I’m not having it. Not at all. My point is that we need to move with the times. Look at the other leagues in Europe. They see foreign coaches all the time, it's commonplace. But in Scotland, we still look at a foreign coach as something exotic and risky, when in truth, it's not any more risky than appointing someone like Pressley or Neilson. I was more questioning your logic behind the notion that a less-than-stellar experience with Wimmer would represent a need to return to the status quo. I don't agree with that at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpy Posted yesterday at 03:38 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 03:38 PM 4 hours ago, wellon said: Ach if it's neilson , give him a chance, don't want to do it without you . Pah, Nilsson Schmilsson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted yesterday at 03:45 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 03:45 PM 17 minutes ago, David said: Not at all. My point is that we need to move with the times. Look at the other leagues in Europe. They see foreign coaches all the time, it's commonplace. But in Scotland, we still look at a foreign coach as something exotic and risky, when in truth, it's not any more risky than appointing someone like Pressley or Neilson. I was more questioning your logic behind the notion that a less-than-stellar experience with Wimmer would represent a need to return to the status quo. I don't agree with that at all. Okay, fair enough. My point remains that it would be negligent for the Board not to consider the risks of appointing someone in similar circumstances to Wimmer. Whether the potential benefits of such an appointment outweigh the known risks - or whether someone closer to home offers more overall value than another Wimmer - is ultimately for the Board to decide. But if it goes wrong again, the shit will be on their hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted yesterday at 03:57 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 03:57 PM 2 hours ago, David said: I know a few things have been floated out there, but I don't believe that Wimmer left because he missed his family. There was more to it than that. Let's be totally frank about this. He left for a better job/pay/budget. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well_said Posted yesterday at 04:28 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 04:28 PM 49 minutes ago, grumpy said: Pah, Nilsson Schmilsson. Is he Danish or swedish🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted yesterday at 04:59 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 04:59 PM 6 hours ago, wellon said: Ach if it's neilson , give him a chance, don't want to do it without you . Must be a contender cos......everybody's talkin about him 🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throughthelaces Posted yesterday at 05:19 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 05:19 PM Jose Mourinho has been spotted at upper crust........... In all seriousness see who we get if we get a foreigner who's gonna come in and try play football I'd be happy. No more of kettleball or the likes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted 23 hours ago Report Share Posted 23 hours ago 5 hours ago, joewarkfanclub said: I suspect Ive been wooshed here, but here goes...... Obviously I will give him a chance, as I would with any new manager. Just some are more exciting than others. Doesnt necessarily mean they wont be any good. Neilson knows the league and has experience at our level. Would probably keep us up. But his pressers would be boring as feck and his team would in all liklihood end up the same. Brown may not be everyones cup of tea but he is a winner and wouldnt just give the usual stock answers to questions Could be a bumpier ride with him but it would undoubtedly be more fun. Still hope we go for Wimmer MK2 though. The thought process was correct even if it didnt work out as planned. Do you not mind browns " no comment " interview after the players ousted john Collins...that was cringe as...don't think his answers would be very entertaining if we are using that as one of the yardstick. Pity john Collins isn't interested in management game any more, he had hibs going great until players didn't fancy the graft.....allegedly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted 23 hours ago Report Share Posted 23 hours ago 2 hours ago, grizzlyg said: Must be a contender cos......everybody's talkin about him 🤪 I didn't think there was any more mileage in this one...you've come good again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuwell2 Posted 23 hours ago Report Share Posted 23 hours ago 6 hours ago, joewarkfanclub said: I suspect Ive been wooshed here, but here goes...... Don’t worry about it - everybody’s talkin’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuwell2 Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago 2 hours ago, grizzlyg said: Must be a contender cos......everybody's talkin about him 🤪 Dam you beat me to it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago 42 minutes ago, wellon said: Do you not mind browns " no comment " interview after the players ousted john Collins...that was cringe as...don't think his answers would be very entertaining if we are using that as one of the yardstick. Pity john Collins isn't interested in management game any more, he had hibs going great until players didn't fancy the graft.....allegedly Ok. I get it. You dont like Scott Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago 21 hours ago, joewarkfanclub said: Id rather have Scott Brown than Neilson. At least he has a bit of personality about him. I suspect it will be neither of them. Personality is all well and good, but I’d take a manager who knows how to get results any day. Neilson might not light up a press conference, but he’s shown he can win games in Scotland. A win rate of 51 percent across more than 400 matches as a manager. He guided Hearts to the Championship title twice, once in a league that included both Hibs and Rangers, and again in a season with Dundee in the mix. He also led Dundee United to the title. He’s taken a team to a Scottish Cup final and secured a third-place finish as well. If we’re judging Scottish managers purely on achievements and consistency, I’d say he’s well ahead of Brown at this stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago 29 minutes ago, Stuwell2 said: Don’t worry about it - everybody’s talkin’ Fuck me thats grim! 😆😆😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyMax Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago 3 hours ago, grizzlyg said: Must be a contender cos......everybody's talkin about him 🤪 You might have got a like on that if you'd said 'everybody's talkin at him'.....but at least i got your attempt 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago 3 minutes ago, David said: Personality is all well and good, but I’d take a manager who knows how to get results any day. Neilson might not light up a press conference, but he’s shown he can win games in Scotland. A win rate of 51 percent across more than 400 matches as a manager. He guided Hearts to the Championship title twice, once in a league that included both Hibs and Rangers, and again in a season with Dundee in the mix. He also led Dundee United to the title. He’s taken a team to a Scottish Cup final and secured a third-place finish as well. If we’re judging Scottish managers purely on achievements and consistency, I’d say he’s well ahead of Brown at this stage. I take your point. But where's the adventure in that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago Just now, joewarkfanclub said: I take your point. But where's the adventure in that? If we're looking for adventure, I'd rather we looked overseas. The idea of having Brown, who will be under the media spotlight as a "former Celtic man" throughout his tenure with us isn't really the kind of adventure I want. He'll never be "Scott Brown, Motherwell manager," he'll always be "Scott Brown, former Celtic player and scourge of Rangers." If we're looking at hiring a Scottish manager, I'd choose Neilson over Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistandshout1983 Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago One rumour I did hear recently is our chairman has been in Albania speaking to a potential candidate No idea if it is true or not but if so maybe explains the silence about the next guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCDawg Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago On Twitter or X whatever it's called. Derek Adams has left Morecambe as has new position lined up??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago 8 minutes ago, BigCDawg said: On Twitter or X whatever it's called. Derek Adams has left Morecambe as has new position lined up??? Given Morecambe finished 24th from 24 and lost their League status, I imagine the new position is leaning on the counter at the job centre. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCDawg Posted 21 hours ago Report Share Posted 21 hours ago 2 minutes ago, weeyin said: Given Morecambe finished 24th from 24 and lost their League status, I imagine the new position is leaning on the counter at the job centre. Not saying I want him....just 2 and 2 making 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted 21 hours ago Report Share Posted 21 hours ago 31 minutes ago, David said: If we're looking for adventure, I'd rather we looked overseas. The idea of having Brown, who will be under the media spotlight as a "former Celtic man" throughout his tenure with us isn't really the kind of adventure I want. He'll never be "Scott Brown, Motherwell manager," he'll always be "Scott Brown, former Celtic player and scourge of Rangers." If we're looking at hiring a Scottish manager, I'd choose Neilson over Brown. If you read my other posts, you will see that I agree. Id rather have neither. My argument was specifically in relation to Neilson v Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted 21 hours ago Report Share Posted 21 hours ago Scott Brown, Robbie Neilson Fleetwood Mac and Derek Adams ffs, we really need a genuine potential candidate to discuss before this thread gets any worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted 21 hours ago Report Share Posted 21 hours ago 31 minutes ago, David said: If we're looking for adventure, I'd rather we looked overseas. The idea of having Brown, who will be under the media spotlight as a "former Celtic man" throughout his tenure with us isn't really the kind of adventure I want. He'll never be "Scott Brown, Motherwell manager," he'll always be "Scott Brown, former Celtic player and scourge of Rangers." If we're looking at hiring a Scottish manager, I'd choose Neilson over Brown. I don't think Brown will be our manager - but it honestly wouldn't bother me if he was appointed. All that matters is that the person appointed can do the job. Like - we had Terry Butcher ex Rangers player and he did OK. What the media think doesn't bother me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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