SteelmaninOZ Posted August 23 Author Report Share Posted August 23 1 minute ago, grizzlyg said: We are a different beast under Askou, first 65 mins great but when your keeper sells 2 goals it doesn't help We will get there I think Ox will be in goal next week 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretzel Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 What can you say. So frustrating as it was a magnificent performance for the first hour absolutely blew them away, Ward gave them two gift wrapped goals but made a few fine stops late on. Just a shame we couldn't get another with decent chances for Hendry and Fadinger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 Easy to blame the keeper. It hearts were dominant in final 30 . When hearts scored their first we should have shored up the midfield - brining on wingers and taking off midfield players I think was poor game mgt . we allowed hearts to run over us - gaffer as good as he’s been needs to learn from that . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benson Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 If only we had a goalie with wards footwork and ox shot stopping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 As much as I’m disappointed, the way we played for an hour was incredible. Im not going to moan too much as it’s still better than what we’ve watched for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 From 3-0 up dominating play, Hearts being battered and we fecked it up big time, another 2 points thrown away. I don't think we can blame our forwards for this one, a shambles of a defence again that cant close a game out, still we never lost but we cant afford to be throwing points away like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 Well before the game you’d snap the arm off anyone who offers you a draw at Tynecastle against an in form Hearts side. But context is everything with draws. Regardless of what was another very good first half performance and a strong start to the second half we have thrown away a 3-0 lead with less than twenty minutes left and that is totally and utterly unacceptable, as well as being completely unprofessional. So it’s two points dropped rather than a point gained and as I said earlier it was a classic Motherwell bottle job. We are now in the position of being three league games into the season and have no wins to our name. We even needed extra time against St.Johnstone last week to secure League Cup progression. Today should ring alarm bells loud and clear to anyone who thinks this team is capable of top six this season, because until we actually manage to win football matches then that is pie in the sky. Not good enough Motherwell. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Grew Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 For over an hour we were by far the best team and played Hearts off the park. Became too cavalier and should’ve put Halliday on after we went 3-0. Manager needs to learn how and when to close a game down. Still would’ve taken a point from here beforehand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 If you had told me we had thrown away 4 points from our first three games this season, I would have laughed at you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postiejim Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 5 minutes ago, SteelmaninOZ said: We will get there I think Ox will be in goal next week And hopefully McGhee will be back soon. But the woeful McGinn and Balmer ....dear oh dear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 4 minutes ago, MJC said: Well before the game you’d snap the arm off anyone who offers you a draw at Tynecastle against an in form Hearts side. But context is everything with draws. Regardless of what was another very good first half performance and a strong start to the second half we have thrown away a 3-0 lead with less than twenty minutes left and that is totally and utterly unacceptable, as well as being completely unprofessional. So it’s two points dropped rather than a point gained and as I said earlier it was a classic Motherwell bottle job. We are now in the position of being three league games into the season and have no wins to our name. We even needed extra time against St.Johnstone last week to secure League Cup progression. Today should ring alarm bells loud and clear to anyone who thinks this team is capable of top six this season, because until we actually manage to win football matches then that is pie in the sky. Not good enough Motherwell. 2 of our first 3 games have been home to rangers and away to hearts plus away to st mirren. Not an easy start to season. We are a job in progress and I believe in Askou. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postiejim Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 4 minutes ago, Spiderpig said: From 3-0 up dominating play, Hearts being battered and we fecked it up big time, another 2 points thrown away. I don't think we can blame our forwards for this one, a shambles of a defence again that cant close a game out, still we never lost but we cant afford to be throwing points away like that. If the game had continued we'd have lost. That fourth was coming sooner rather than later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 Really not sure how to feel about that. Would have bit your hand off for a point before kick off, but 3-0 up the game should be done! Jens is going to have to think about where the balance lies between playing our football and making sure we take home the 3 points. Think we lost the midfield when Slattery came off and Spittal came on. Totally understand taking him off on a yellow card with the lead we had, but hindsight would suggest that is a mistake. Poor defending for the first allowing the overload back post and poor keeping for the second (through his legs) and the 3rd (palming it out). Still a work in progress and we kinda knew this is how our "style" couldl pan out, but still a sore one in the end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistandshout1983 Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 Absolutely disappointing to be 3-0 up and draw in those circumstances On a positive note still unbeaten in league and cup, if we beat Kettlewell's Killie next weekend all will be forgotten by me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well_said Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 10 minutes ago, Big Wispy Flossy said: Mcginn and ward chucked the 3 points away. Thank goodness someone can see McGinn was mainly at fault for the second standing with hand in the air claiming offside when he was the man playing him onside, the same thing happened again later in the match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 We were different class for an hour then took our foot of the gas when we scored the 3rd then couldn't get going again.the defence has been solid the first couple of games but we still have too many from last season that aren't good enough,there's some real positives to take from today but also we need to learn from the mistakes and quick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 8 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: 2 of our first 3 games have been home to rangers and away to hearts plus away to st mirren. Not an easy start to season. We are a job in progress and I believe in Askou. No arguments there and again we have shown some really promising stuff, the type of which was never evident under our previous three managers. You can see what JBA is doing and he is building a competitive team which we need to hope comes good, but as I said we need to make that count by turning draws into wins. It’s early days though still. To take a step back, looking at our opening fixtures…Rangers(H), St.Mirren and Heats(A) to come through that unbeaten is commendable. However as I said context is important with draws and I’m afraid 3-0 up with 20 to go and end up hanging on for a point isn’t good enough. Next week at home against Kilmarnock is crucial, we NEED to pick up all three points. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 4 minutes ago, well_said said: Thank goodness someone can see McGinn was mainly at fault for the second standing with hand in the air claiming offside when he was the man playing him onside, the same thing happened again later in the match. Mcginn has been a solid player for us but there's no way we should have been starting this season with him as a first choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 Personal view is we dominated via midfield for 60 mins and were coasting. Hearts bulked up in midfield and we withdrew Slattery and put on forward players. I thought Hearts dominated us for the final 30 and honestly could have won, which would have been even more gutting. I don't think it's all down to the defence or keeper, we didn't react well to their subs and made formational changes and poor subs that for me lost our way completely . The joys of being a Well fan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 Just now, MJC said: No arguments there and again we have shown some really promising stuff, the type of which was never evident under our previous three managers. You can see what JBA is doing and he is building a competitive team which we need to hope comes good, but as I said we need to make that count by turning draws into wins. To take a step back, looking at our opening fixtures…Rangers(H), St.Mirren and Heats(A) to come through that unbeaten is commendable. However as I said context is important with draws and I’m afraid 3-0 up with 20 to go and end up hanging on for a point isn’t good enough. Next week at home against Kilmarnock is crucial, we NEED to pick up all three points. Yup , there is no excuse for throwing away 3pts with 25 to play. I can imagine JB raging with them. A setback today but we dust ourselves down ahead of next week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 I’ll take that disappointment today and forget about it if we go out and blow Killie and Kettlewell away next week. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 3 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Yup , there is no excuse for throwing away 3pts with 25 to play. I can imagine JB raging with them. A setback today but we dust ourselves down ahead of next week A huge setback and no getting away from but that but certainly not a disaster either. A point at Tynecastle is always a good result when the dust settles. We just need that first win on the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 22 minutes ago, MJC said: Well before the game you’d snap the arm off anyone who offers you a draw at Tynecastle against an in form Hearts side. But context is everything with draws. Regardless of what was another very good first half performance and a strong start to the second half we have thrown away a 3-0 lead with less than twenty minutes left and that is totally and utterly unacceptable, as well as being completely unprofessional. So it’s two points dropped rather than a point gained. See if you had just stopped your post there...... It wasnt a bottle job. It was naive tactically from the manager and a mixture of tiredness, poor discipline and bad decision making from the players. Also, we may not have won a league game yet, but we are also undefeated against 3 of the better teams in the league at 2 of the harder venues. For the first 60 minutes thats as good as Ive seen us play in a long long time. The 3rd goal is an absolute thing of beauty. For a brand new team and manager its always going to be a work in progress at this stage. Today IS a sore one because of the circumsrances and we DO need to learn from the mistakes we are making, but how enjoyable is it to watch compared to last year? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 27 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: We are a different beast under Askou, first 65 mins great but when your keeper sells 2 goals it doesn't help Yep, 1 definitely maybe 2 , pity as he has been ok so far surely that's bslmer finished tho , trying to play offside for 2nd and then no challenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 9 minutes ago, MJC said: No arguments there and again we have shown some really promising stuff, the type of which was never evident under our previous three managers. You can see what JBA is doing and he is building a competitive team which we need to hope comes good, but as I said we need to make that count by turning draws into wins. It’s early days though still. To take a step back, looking at our opening fixtures…Rangers(H), St.Mirren and Heats(A) to come through that unbeaten is commendable. However as I said context is important with draws and I’m afraid 3-0 up with 20 to go and end up hanging on for a point isn’t good enough. Next week at home against Kilmarnock is crucial, we NEED to pick up all three points. There ye are now! 😍😍😍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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