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Dundee v Motherwell 13/09/2025


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53 minutes ago, wellfan said:

A solid first half undone by weak defending, poor decision-making in front of goal, and a number nine who can’t score. Not taking the reported £800K for Stama to sign a proper striker may prove to be our biggest mistake this season. We’ve got a good midfield in general, however. Fantastic.

Only if the bid actually happened, and it was for the amount the papers said. Add to that that we brought in Osong and Hendry, I'm not sure we would have replaced him with anyone good.

Maybe this is more an indictment on Osong, but we clearly missed AP in open play when he was subbed off. Osong reminded me of that guy Souness signed for Southampton.

JT missed a sitter too, and Said has one of those running man style perimeter monitors on his ankles, which turn his feet into cement the second he crosses the 18 yard box. So our build up play is technically working, we just need a forward that can make half chances for themselves, and take the ones the midfield hand to him.

 

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1 minute ago, wellgirl said:

There is no reason why we can't win at Pittodrie. 

I agree, but I do have some concern that should we lose that 1st win will become a bigger issue than it is right now. We really need to win before we lose to keep the positivity going.

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27 minutes ago, texanwellfan said:

Tawanda Jethro Maswanhise 

The players and manager call him JT,  so did the previous managers. So my guess is that's what he wants to be called. I'm sure he'd have corrected them by now otherwise. 

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24 minutes ago, texanwellfan said:

Tawanda Jethro Maswanhise 

That may be his name on paper, but I’m certain he goes by JT. Listen to the manager and others referring to him in interviews. He’s also our most dangerous attacker, so I guess he can be referred to however he wants.

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2 minutes ago, MJC said:

we get weaker as teams suss us out. 

If I am to believe the manager and Watts pre-match interview, there isn't a system to work out as there is fluidity and variation in the way that the ball moves out from the back.

It is 11 v 11, if we can pass and move with speed and accuracy it will be very difficult to prevent Motherwell from playing out. 

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Just now, Mccus28 said:

If we bookmarked every game you said we'd lose, we would be in the 3rd division 😂

I said we would draw against St.Mirren - I was right

I said we would draw against Kilmarnock - I was right

I said we would draw today against Dundee - and I was right again :rolleyes:

And I am saying right now we will lose to Aberdeen next week.

Let’s see if I’m right again…

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Just now, MJC said:

I said we would draw against St.Mirren - I was right

I said we would draw against Kilmarnock - I was right

I said we would draw today against Dundee - and I was right again :rolleyes:

And I am saying right now we will lose to Aberdeen next week.

Let’s see if I’m right again…

To be fair it's been pretty easy to predict a draw these last few weeks 

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8 minutes ago, MJC said:

As it stands we are playing some good possession football but with little to no end product

There is an end product. We have scored in 4 of the 5 league games. The end product could and should be much better, but 7 goals in 5 games is an OK return.

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4 minutes ago, fizoxy said:

Only if the bid actually happened, and it was for the amount the papers said. Add to that that we brought in Osong and Hendry, I'm not sure we would have replaced him with anyone good.

Maybe this is more an indictment on Osong, but we clearly missed AP in open play when he was subbed off. Osong reminded me of that guy Souness signed for Southampton.

JT missed a sitter too, and Said has one of those running man style perimeter monitors on his ankles, which turn his feet into cement the second he crosses the 18 yard box. So our build up play is technically working, we just need a forward that can make half chances for themselves, and take the ones the midfield hand to him.

I did say reported £800k. JT can get away with missing the odd sitter since he still scores other goals, and Said isn’t really meant to be a centre-forward. Even so, a KVV, Moult, or Bair type in this generally excellent possession-based, attacking team would have scored multiple goals by now. The problem is we haven’t signed a capable number 9, which makes much of the good work somewhat pointless. It could well become our weak spot this season, which would be extremely disappointing given that everything else is generally positive.

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2 minutes ago, MFCL84 said:

There is an end product. We have scored in 4 of the 5 league games. The end product could and should be much better, but 7 goals in 5 games is an OK return.

We've also lost 7 goals in 5 games, which is not good, all the great play we’ve had and yet we are dropping valuable points every week.

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6 minutes ago, MJC said:

I said we would draw against St.Mirren - I was right

I said we would draw against Kilmarnock - I was right

I said we would draw today against Dundee - and I was right again :rolleyes:

And I am saying right now we will lose to Aberdeen next week.

Let’s see if I’m right again…

You the man!!!! Slow clap incoming 😜

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19 minutes ago, MJC said:

Aberdeen will knock us out of the Cup next week, you can bet your tank on it.

Most likely a draw in 90 minutes then an ET/pens defeat but we are not going up to Pittodrie and knocking them out of the League Cup.

If we are going to win any game in the near future then it will be the League game against them at Fir Park in a fortnights time, but at this point in time it’s hard to see us winning against anyone.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Jeez if we won our first 5 league games you would still say....aye....but we will lose our next 33.

It will take time but give me this team ahead of Kettlewell any day

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18 minutes ago, wellfan said:

That may be his name on paper, but I’m certain he goes by JT. Listen to the manager and others referring to him in interviews. He’s also our most dangerous attacker, so I guess he can be referred to however he wants.

Yes, well girl told me 

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Certainly better to watch than kettlwells side but we need to be more direct at times and need an alternative strategy when game changes like today. I just want that Saturday winning feeling and don't think wel be getting that for a while. Aberdeen favourites with bookies to win on Saturday but we could upset the odds if we be more direct and cut out mistakes at back.

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Not more direct, more clinical finishing is required.

As for mistakes all our players make these. Concentrating seems to be the issue.

The more I see Gordon, the more I feel he just is not the big commanding center back that we need. 

Also would say our left back can be slow getting back into position when we lose possession. Dundee exploited the space behind him way to often.

We need the injuries to clear up and soon.

Suppose a draw after an international break is a bonus for us given  previous seasons.

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Very disappointed to draw after winning for the 3rd game in a row . Not overly concerned at this moment in time 

Looking at the league table it is a very close league from 3rd to 10th right now

Desperately needing a first league win from somewhere though , otherwise the unbeaten run we are currently on becomes a winless one 

On a positive note 12 games unbeaten in league and cup , if you include Wimmer's last 2 games.  Things could definitely be worse 

 

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