Electric Blues Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 23 minutes ago, wellon said: It's just everyone else is kidding themselves, you really are an unlikeable guy and I've never met you..getting a thrill out of trolling folk Everybody's entitled to their opinion, isn't that the mantra? No need to get personal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago If Grant Hanley receives an additional ban due to this being his second red card of the season, can Motherwell appeal? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, texanwellfan said: That’s what it seems like but it might just be that our officials are just fkn terrible. That pk decision is just unbelievable. How can you review that incident and come up with that call??? When have you seen a scottish ref go to the monitor and stick by his original decision? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Electric Blues said: Everybody's entitled to their opinion, isn't that the mantra? No need to get personal. What did I say that's personal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 33 minutes ago, wellon said: That's why they might win the league, so they are a better team but we are getting fecked week in week out by officials, I think that's the softest pen I've ever seen...when is a scottish ref going to show some balls and go with his onfield decision? It’s not soft. It’s just plain WRONG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Dosser Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, texanwellfan said: That’s what it seems like but it might just be that our officials are just fkn terrible. That pk decision is just unbelievable. How can you review that incident and come up with that call??? A good question for Wullie Collum at the next pointless VAR review video with Gordon Duncan. It's pretty much a waste of time even pursuing these howlers because the authorities' incompetence/bias have no consequences for them. More word salad and twisting than a Philadelphia lawyer will doubtless ensue from WC etc. and nothing will change for the better. The Slattery incident seems to have been a possible catalyst for the slew of inexplicably harsh decisions against us in the past two months but I'm not exactly sure why. Slattery's feigning was embarrassing but a) the referee missed it originally and b) VAR decided to send King off for the slightest of contact, which was later rescinded. Yet eventually Slattery is banned for two games for what is normally a yellow card offence, plus a two-match suspended sentence, which is a Sword of Damocles hanging over him for an indeterminate period (has this ever happened to an OF player?). Was this simply because yet again the authorities were shown to be incompetent (and I also still think Longelo was probably offside from the angles on the BBC coverage) and thus they have "doubled down" (but only against a "diddy team", of course) like a frustrated sad-sack gambler in Las Vegas? Posters above who say it's hardly worthwhile attending 'Well matches because of refereeing "inconsistencies" have my sympathy and our next game is, of course, at the worse venue possible for such things, yet we still have the some concern troll posters on here ignoring the blinking obvious and putting the boot in to the team when we have well and truly been stitched up by unfair decisions recently. This has still been for me one of the best seasons ever supporting MFC since 1962 and I am proud of our style of play, not something I have said often in my time. Our big increase in attendances shows I'm not the only one who thinks so either. 'Mon The Dossers! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, Ya Bezzer! said: 15 matches against Top 6 and we have 2 wins. That's not referees. Especially when we have been ahead or level in so many of those matches. Not all refs , but if you take the falkirk games at fp alone, we could have at least 4 more points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Blues Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 6 minutes ago, wellon said: What did I say that's personal? "unlikeable guy" is a bit personal, although in fairness I suppose MJC has been called much worse over the years 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmboWell Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago Another Saturday spoiled by inept officials. From being one of the most enjoyable seasons in nearly 40 years we have Collum and his group of fellow twats going out their way to “put us in our place” . It is no surprise that there are no Scottish refs at this years World Cup,highlighting their total inability to do their job to a level anywhere near being acceptable. We have a Somalian referee at this years WC which I can only assume is coming from an association deemed to be more professional and less corrupt than our bunch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Electric Blues said: "unlikeable guy" is a bit personal, although in fairness I suppose MJC has been called much worse over the years That's not personal in my book..just factual ....but I did write the book 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago Having watched the highlights the penalty is harsh but you need to look at our missed chances. Longelo's is on his wrong foot.....Just could have done better but for JT to not even hit target really was poor...after doing sll the hard work before it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz7 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 hours ago, MJC said: It was a stonewall penalty. Anyone saying otherwise is kidding themselves on. Overall we just weren’t good enough and were well beaten by a better team who are more clinical and more equipped to deal with how football works in this league. We are now ending this season with a whimper because we have been well and truly sussed out. Fur coat, no knickers. Maybe a wee read at rule book would help yourself and some others. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 45 minutes ago, wellon said: When have you seen a scottish ref go to the monitor and stick by his original decision? At Kilmarnock today, though it took 8 minutes to review, and the ref still managed to feck it up by not red carding the Killie defender, despite the fact he made no attempt to play the ball. And it probably wasn't a penalty. And it was possibly offside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 14 minutes ago, gaz7 said: Maybe a wee read at rule book would help yourself and some others. Exactly! How the fk can officials arrive at PK decision? as I said earlier, not a soft penalty, a wrong decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Dosser Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago Just now, texanwellfan said: Exactly! How the fk can officials arrive at PK decision? as I said earlier, not a soft penalty, a wrong decision. Not according to S. Naismith on Sportscene, unfortunately. And two Hearts players looked offside to me at Hearts first goal in the BBC coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz7 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 7 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: Exactly! How the fk can officials arrive at PK decision? as I said earlier, not a soft penalty, a wrong decision. Obviously don't know rules and to be fair I didn't know either until after the game. But for referees on var with time on their hands not to know is disgraceful. The problem we have just now is every week recently jens has been moaning about decisions but he has imo and to be fair all rest of scottish football other than teams wev been against in the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz7 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, Happy Dosser said: Not according to S. Naismith on Sportscene, unfortunately. And two Hearts players looked offside to me at Hearts first goal in the BBC coverage. On sportsound after game as well they all agreed it was a penalty. Hopefully when the rules are explained to them they will backtrack. Collum will have some explaining to do as it is in black and white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshi-1991 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Getting bored of blaming the officials when we should have buried at least 5 chances. Becoming a bit of a habit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz7 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, Yoshi-1991 said: Getting bored of blaming the officials when we should have buried at least 5 chances. Becoming a bit of a habit. Yes and I agree with you regarding officials. It's a different disappointment just now as we are still playing decent but obviously not finishing off. Didn't notice at game but another poster said and I just watched sportscene highlights but maswanhise sitter if he passed to longelo he had another tap in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 9 minutes ago, Yoshi-1991 said: Getting bored of blaming the officials when we should have buried at least 5 chances. Becoming a bit of a habit. I’m not blaming officials for our defeat. I’m calling them out for not knowing the rules. I’m not 100% sure but did the Hearts player actually move the ball with his head? Even if he didn’t, It looked to me like he tried to play the ball with his head while on the ground. So should be indirect kick for us. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderwell Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Moving sideways a little bit re VAR. Clear and deliberate - can't take as long as it did at the Killie game. Here's the solution to the powers that be, for the love of the football fan in the STADIUM who are being made again secondary considerations. If it's not decided in 2 mins. Play on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Putting aside our recent inability to take our chances and the blatantly poor officiating, my other big concern is the complete lack of aggression. It showed again today against an aggressive Hearts side. We can’t defend set pieces into our own box, and at the other end our set pieces and most of our crosses are basically pointless because we’ve no real presence or aggression in the box, with defenders often winning everything. Also. For all the decent football we play in the middle of the park, we’re far too powderpuff across the pitch. We need to be stronger and more aggressive if we want to be winners, and it’s a glaring issue that has to be addressed in the summer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderwell Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 9 minutes ago, wellfan said: Putting aside our recent inability to take our chances and the blatantly poor officiating, my other big concern is the complete lack of aggression. It showed again today against an aggressive Hearts side. We can’t defend set pieces into our own box, and at the other end our set pieces and most of our crosses are basically pointless because we’ve no real presence or aggression in the box, with defenders often winning everything. Also. For all the decent football we play in the middle of the park, we’re far too powderpuff across the pitch. We need to be stronger and more aggressive if we want to be winners, and it’s a glaring issue that has to be addressed in the summer. It was no surprise they scored from a corner. Fadinger and Said were one foot smaller than the guys they were marking. I'm not saying it was their fault but it is an exposed weakness. Ball playing six footers anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderwell Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, wunderwell said: It was no surprise they scored from a corner. Fadinger and Said were one foot smaller than the guys they were marking. I'm not saying it was their fault but it is an exposed weakness. Ball playing six footers anyone? Adding the fact that I think there was aspects of Kettlewell not playing players. McGhee is a hard as nails SPL quality player. I'd like to see more of him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star sail Posted 31 minutes ago Report Share Posted 31 minutes ago 1 hour ago, gaz7 said: Maybe a wee read at rule book would help yourself and some others. If this is indeed the rule then it suggests that not only the referee does not know the rules but the VAR assistant does not know the rules either. The referees need to go full time and be held accountable for not applying the laws of the game if there is to be any improvement in standards in this country. The subjective nature of decision making is killing the game in Scotland. Despite Motherwell having the best team in recent memory, I have lost interest in the game in recent months. The Slattery punishment is bizarre. The process is incoherent and it's seems that we are still paying the price for Slattery's stupidity. There have been about a dozen incomprehensible decisions in the game this season (not all involving Motherwell). The Rangers v Livingston non handball decision at Ibrox was the final straw for me. I think that decision was as clear a display of cheating by officials that I have ever seen. A clear handball to deny a goal scoring opportunity and the only person on the entire planet that did not see it was the VAR assistant. The astronauts from Artimas 2 would have seen it from the other side of the moon. The playing field is not even. I feel sorry for the Motherwell manager and the Motherwell players who have created a new vision in Scottish football this season and to some extent the project has been detailed by really poor refereeing standards. There was a sense throughout the 90 minutes today that a refereeing decision was going to decide the game and that is how it turned out. We can talk about missed opportunities but until that decision is made Hearts have only scored one goal to our one goal. The decisions tip the balance. People are free to make their own decisions about their investment in the game in Scotland but for me it is too much of a lottery to be something I waste my Saturday afternoons on. It is a shame because the team and the manager don't deserve my apathy but it is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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