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European football is an achievement., We are in line to get it. Falkirk are not.

In fairness I would put Tommy Coyne in the legend category. He never won silverware with us but he was the spearhead of a fantastic Motherwell side and scored many a crucial goal. He was also a terrific footballer into the bargain. Likewise guys like Keith Lasley, Stephen Craigan and Stevie Hammell, all club legends in my book for the many years of great service they gave us.

We have still only lost 6 league games, if they were spread out more then would still be some achievement. We have just hit bad run plus I think transfer speculation has affected Watt and JT. also a few other players hit dip in form......Said...McGinn...SOD. However the referees and VAR have given us hee haw in recent weeks (oxlade-chamberlain no red card.......and 2 shocking decisions yesterday) imagine if sellik never got those...be a 4 day national debate note to self..........don't call JBA a legend. 🤪🤪

A legend is born when we win silverware, that's why Tommy McLean is given that accolade and if truth be told for much of Tommy's 10 year reign we were relegation cannon fodder but where he took us from and to is what puts him in that category for me.

Well said: and both penalty decisions were wrong (and crucial). Even in the free-kick awarded from which they scored, the Falkirk player looked to me to be pulling McGinn as much as anything but the referee seemed to penalise us disproportionately throughout the game. I expect little from our referees nowadays, just to avoid disappointment 👹.

I haven’t at any point said that we haven’t been very good this season overall. We have clearly surpassed all pre-season expectations and then some and indeed the football we have shown we are capable of playing has been the best in as long as I can remember, possibly since McGhee’s first season back in 07/08. But nothing is black and white. There was nothing that I said earlier that wasn’t factual. We failed to win a league match until late September, throwing away a bucketload of points early season. We have a very poor record against the top six sides especially away from home. In both Cup competitions we exited in absolutely dismal fashion and the Scottish Cup tie against Aberdeen saw the manager rotate the team for no good reason. And since mid-late February we have fallen away performance and result wise and from being talked about as potential title contenders we now look like we could throw away fourth place. Now, let me be clear, even if that does happen it will still have been a very good season for us but I think while there will be a great deal of fondness for this season, Jens and the way we have played when we are at our best, there will also be a degree of “what might have been” or even possibly “what should have been”. JBA has been very good for us in his short time and I hope we can hang onto him. But he is not a club ‘legend’ yet as was suggested and he is certainly not the next Pep Guardiola as you would think with the way some both inside and outside our support have been gushing over him. He could very well go on to be a legend of Motherwell FC but he is nowhere near that yet. Artichoke. Cholmondely. Pedigree CHUM.

Matt, this guy lives for reactions , some people need to look up definition of " supporter", we didn't play well yesterday but again would have taken something if officials/ var were on it I fancy us to get something at Tynecastle any team that can double crowds is doing a lot right...unprecedented

Falkirk play good stuff and it's good to see them doing well as a smaller team but we have some terrible decisions v them at fp this season ...var again being selective when to get involved.

Wow. You just love getting the boot in. I have said it before and will again, we need to stop and remember where this team was last season and judge JBA on that. Yes we have had a dip in form but to pick apart the season with that statement above is ridiculous. I have absolutely loved this season, it’s the best football I have seen at Fir Park and long may it continue.

I like Priestman, but I dont think he can play the Slattery role. He could however play the Fadinger role and maybe push Lukas forward? Another option would be Nicholson, who I thought looked sharp yesterday when he came on. Similarly, McGhee looked very comfortable at right back yesterday. Good to have some options. We should use them to keep the squad fresh and give the opposition a different question to answer. Id be interested to find out what the issue was with Eythor as he was definitely in the training pics during the week. I know folk have their doubts about his quality, but big Henderson was getting away with murder yesterday and needed bodied!

There are some good points in there, but the no plan B thing isnt one of them. Jens has made various in game changes and employed the long ball regularly throughout the season when necessary. I agree with Mcghee and Nicholson, both looked very useful yesterday when they came on and I would like to see both get more minutes as we go into the split. As for Falkirk. I agree McGlynn is a very good manager. But to suggest he is doing better than Jens because he has got them top 6 and has a winnable cup semi final is pushing it. We are above them in the table for a reason, and have also been to a cup semi final. If MGlynn gets them to the final there is a conversation to be had about who has done better, but not yet.

Can't get much clearer than that. Would love to hear the VAR audio on this one.

I wouldnt blame Ward, and not necessarily McGinn (although he could have cleared it up the line to Sparrow), but Watt plays the pass back to Ward blind and clearly cant see the Falkirk players behind him. I think its fair to attribute blame there (if blame is to be attributed at all) as Im sure the manager doesnt coach that.

Cmon you are a wee bit angry for nothing here. Whilst our record against Top 6 is at a minus we have played them all home and away and giving them all really good games which is certainly a big change from sitting on our own 18 yard line waiting to get beat. This tippy tappy football that you and some others have mentioned is the same type of football that has played a lot of teams off the park and the same that is played by our European neighbours when pumping our Europe entries every July. No plan b is another myth. We went to 3 at back against hibs. played with a false 9 against celtic and went longer when byorgolfson was available. Yesterday we had no other players available due to injury and suspension as if we did I'm sure maswanhise would have been wide and we would have attempted long balls to give him 1v1 on the left back. On john McGlynn yes he has done a gd job but he has not done as gd a job as jens as can be seen on the table and if you or anyone who suggests falkirk will finish above us in the table wants a bet with the loser paying to Well Society let's get it on. Put your money where your mouth is as the saying goes.

Good post. A clear and obvious breach of rule 77. The SFA has now set a precedent.

Maybe time to give Jordan McGhee a start at right back. SOD has had a good season but his best position is undoubtedly now at CB. Maybe needs rotating with Paul McGinn. Hopefully Priestman will get a start over Sparrow, who I think is a squad player at best. Lets hope Thor is fit and JT is moved back to his favoured position on the wing. Maybe too, Elijah Just will have recovered from his global jaunts. More of the same won't do.

We were second best over the piece yesterday, no getting away from that, but that is going to happen when you are motherwell. Goals change games though, and f**k me we were hard done by from the officials. Seriously, what is the point in VAR - get involved when they shouldn't and posted missing when needed. Genuinely sick to death of it. Jens has every right to have a pop given what we have been on the end of recently. I wonder if lissah will get the same retrospective punishment as slattery, because said having his arms out certainly didnt make him fall to the ground.

Can I ask why it fell to Lukas Fadinger yesterday to mark a 6-3 in form striker at Fakirk's opening goal?

Still his fault its Ward that had the ball at his feet with no safe outball . Punt it .That's nothing to do with manager in that situation. These mistakes are now costing us where as before when we were not that wee bit jaded we were getting away with it.

John Mcglynn is a good manager as is jens...some merit in what you say but i don't agree with most of what uou say....I doubt the board do either. He's managed to just about double the home support which I thought was impossible and something I haven't seen in about 50 years even with teams who have won cups. So the majority of punters must like " tippy tappy " football. We really missed Slattery which I suspected we would.

In hindsight Legend maybe not correct word. Certainly doing a very good job though, lets remember where we were when SK was in charge. This is where he now needs to show us his ability as other managers have adapted when playing us. COYW

All I will say is our record away from home against other Top 6 clubs is abysmal. He Managers tactics/selection also saw us wimp out of 2 cup competitions. The only things we can realistically win. Let's not get carried away with JBA. He has achieved nothing apart from pleasant on the eye tippy tappy football which teams are getting wise to. There is no steel in the team. There is never plan B. He plays the same guys over and over again. Guys like Nicholson, McGee get about 10 to 15 minutes of play when the game is running away from us. Use of substitutes is not good. The only time yesterday we broke their lines was the consolation goal. Apart from that it was the usual slow pass to death build up combined with Kamikaze dithering at the back. There is nothing wrong with getting the ball forward quick but this seems anathema to JBA. So we get a Top 6 finish. The team we played yesterday also have a Top 6 finish and a winnable cup semi after getting promotion from the Championship. I would say John McGlynn has been a more effective manager than JBA. Motherwell fans need to get realistic about what has been achieved instead of drooling over passing drills.