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2-1 down from the 1st leg, they scored to make it 3-1 on agg then Jamie Murphy missed a pen to make it 3-2. If we had scored it we would have had nearly 20 mins i think to get two goals against 9 men. A big oportunity missed that night.

I’ve been thinking of Odense where we hammered them and got beat 0-1 they ended up with 9 men I think. Did we hit the post with penalty?

You missed out shoddy, cheap and nasty, not fit for purpose, etc etc

I just hope we don't blow it. I am getting flashbacks to the Nancy game back in 2008, place was buzzing, we all had those inflatable bangers, then 15 mins later 2-0 down!! Let's make this a famous glory night for the Well. COYWWWWWWWW

We need 8 in our squad of 25 for the Conference League.

One of our biggest games for a while. “Glamour” tie versus Freiburg awaits us if we win. Not often we get to play the Europa league runners up.

Second Leg Q3 Conference

Yes. This is the dilemma. On these specific players I do think Wilson has shown enough to be the type of squad player we are talking about. In this case we have both Williams and Longelo who would likely start at left back in almost every case but he could replace either if not available. Ross hasn’t, for me, shown / grasped his chance in any position. Maybe he is an example of going out to lower league as last opportunity. Long may we have some coming through to have these debates.

Ye volunteering? Go on........go.for it 🤣🤣

I agree to a degree but to my way of thinking you look at each position, starter and back up, and look to upgrade where possible. From youth teams (ours and elsewhere) if possible for those back ups.. That way you achieve a constant uplift in quality on the pitch and on the bench.. And more likliehood that those bench players will elevate to first team regulars. Regards Wilson, he has been with us for a good number of years and after a very promising start has shown little to no progress. Despite loan placements to address whatever deficiencies our coaches identified. So how long do we wait before looking to upgrade? Ditto Luca Ross I guess. And if we hold on too long, are we effectively missing out on others that might improve us? Not saying it's easy or that some decisions are painful to make but eventually it will be to the benefit of all concerned to part ways. Cue Wilson scoring the winner on Thursday.

I’m sure most fans would love to see more their own coming through and to be fair there’s a virtuous cycle re playing and promoting youngsters that will encourage better quality youngsters over time. There’s a balance to be found . I’m up for youngsters going on loan which several have done . There’s an argument they’ll get ready faster for first team by doing this . The reverse must also be true where we get bigger clubs youngsters . Not all youngsters will be good enough - not just for the first team but also the squad . If we’ve had a player who’s been with us for several years , been out on loan and still lacking I don’t really accept that because they’re young and Scottish that we should keep them in the squad . fwiw I personally think the club are doing a very decent job at getting the balance right .

That's exactly my thinking, which is why I'm not so quick to dismiss some of the players we have in and around the first team already. I do think we have set a very high bar as fans, where we're looking for Turnbull/Miller/Johnston levels otherwise we shouldn't be looking to retain them. We're going to have fringe players. It's how it works for clubs our size who require a decent-sized squad of players. I'd rather those fringe players were our own youngsters than loans or free signings that aren't all that much better in reality.

Do we use this thread for Thursday as well or start a new one?

Were the POD season ticket prices not cheaper this season and in line with the Hunter stand? Jeez folk are never happy!! 🤣🤣 Yes I am joking. Club need to get the seats sorted, sounds absolutely ridiculous for the folk sitting there

I thought I read someone on here saying it was in competition rules but not sure if it was specific competition or all competitions

I really like Alfred, love the attitude and looking forward seeing how the team will develop

Makes a change from Jim Goodwin talking utter rubbish trying to say his team were unlucky to get stuffed 4-0.

Who was the other goalie warming up with connolly on sat ? Any idea ?

Do you mean for competition rules rather than just development? I wonder if the recently announced SFA summit ‘Made in Scotland?' will come up with anything radical in this direction. Tom English article on BBC doesn’t mention us - maybe us having quite a few on bench and pitch doesn’t fit his article narrative but for every Robbie Ure there are multiple Scots who haven’t made it - could they have if quotas and/or alternative competitions gave them a chance here? I’d be happy to try unilaterally to have a squad with a lot of (Scots) youngsters getting a chance.

Although don’t we need a certain amount of home grown talent on our roster?

That would have likely pissed people off, but definitely feels like the most sensible solution. Even just accepting a reduced capacity stadium (by what... 2k?) for all euro ties this season, take a year to map out options and engage with fans to implement a fit for purpose solution. We wouldnt be losing out on that much gate receipts surely? Very much has the feel of a panic/ rushed job which tbf is uncharacteristic of the board recently.

That's a good point. It could very well have been a situation where the seats were swapped out and fans forced to endure what they've endured, only for us to get papped out of Europe early doors and it to have been a waste of funds. Perhaps a better option would have been to ask fans to relocate to the top tier of the away stand for the first few rounds, then if we did make it to a tie with the likes of Freiburg we could have used some of that progression money to invest in better seating options that may even do a job for a few years, rather than what seems like a cheap option that isn't up to the job.

You're assuming that our injury list, as it stands, will improve and no one else will get injured and replace those players currently on the sidelines? We'll see injuries and suspensions happen throughout the season, so we will need a squad of players. I'd like to think that any transfer business we're doing involves players who are of a better quality than the ones we already have and could be considered first eleven worthy. I've seen us too often in the past sign players on free transfers (although they aren't really free at all when agent fees etc are taken into consideration) and loans who did absolutely nothing of note except take up a squad number and play the occasional match. Jair Tavares, Luke Plange, Will Dickson, Oli Shaw and others in recent years. We should be looking to bring in players who will make an impact on the first eleven, and then have a squad outside that consisting of a fair amount of younger players who can be drafted in and do a job when needed. Not every player needs to be someone we're priming to sell on for millions. Sometimes it's fine to have a Euan Wilson-type player who can plug gaps and fill in as and when needed. This idea that if someone hits 21 and hasn't become Lennon Miller means they're not up to doing a job is crazy.

I hear what you say about not wishing to absolve the Club, but mentioning UEFA in mitigation kind of does that. That's the first excuse Brian came up with. UEFA may have been the driver, but it was not UEFA who chose a dangerous and ill thought out solution. Plenty of other teams will have had to modify seating to meet higher standards.....some we will both have visited.....but they did so without the shambles we are now faced with. Someone at the Club got this badly wrong and the Board need to accept that fact and rectify matters before it becomes an even bigger issue. ie. Someone gets injured. Not saying anyone should be sacked. Just that a solution needs to be found. The top tier of the away Stand could possibly be used to temporarily accommodate displaced home fans as improvements are made on a staged basis. Say, 250 or 500 at a time. Maybe not ideal having to move but I think folk would understand. Plenty of home games where a tier of that Stand lies empty. Looking at our fixtures, if and when we get past HJK, Oct 10 v Celtic is the first time the full Stand is certain to be full of away fans. Is that a window that could be utilised ? Even if Freiburg could fill the stand that would only delay matters a week.

They are certainly useful right now when we still havent finished our transfer business and you look at our injury list as it stands. Whether thats still the case in a month or so is another matter.