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The next two Thursdays are probably a bit of a surprise.

Yes it would, we have a massive game on the horizon...players have been run into the ground in certain positions, while others have only just returned from injury and their load needs managed

whats happened over the last 18 months would not be affected in anyway shape or form by us treating the League Cup more seriously today.

Artificial playing surfaces have no place in professional football and the clubs who have them are lower league part-time semi-professional. I think the Scottish League and the SFA need to have a complete re-think on their use in cup competitions. If a team with such a pitch is drawn at home they should have two options: 1. Find an alternative venue with a grass pitch; or 2. Forfeit home advantage. If the latter, they could be compensated financially by the home team, say based upon their average home gate.

The club is in the best place its ever been...Id take everything thats happened over the past 18months or so, over winning the league cup, without question

How much for maswanise now?

The German sense of humour is pish , so you could probably get a gig over to help you with your fare.🤣

It’s not scapegoating youngsters to say there not ready for this level…. reality is defensively we’re very decent & attack we’re terrible how is it stenhousemuir are able to pass the ball with a purpose but we’re passing the ball for the sake of it with no intent…. today booth, vogt, Maswanise were absolutely hiding when the going got tough Should have had the players in by now, the schedules not a shock

Would it, cos we'd have been Rangers number in the draw had we gone through so wed have got Celtic.

Agree. The load on faddinger priestman is massive Lowry hodge just in the door Williams is out. SOD McGinn out need a fresh MM for Thursday. We haven’t been able to really work on patterns of play due to the weekend and mid-week games. Could we have performed better? Yes but with the psychology of Thursday we have lost today. Learn from it. First loss of the season. Now we need a performance on Thursday. The team owe us. The team need us. we knew there would be a drop from last year with the players we lost we are still in the process of rebuilding, let’s see where we are at the end of the window.

I don't think that the schedule has anything to do with it, at least regarding Williams; he only played a few games before getting crocked. I hadn't heard the Priestman news, what happened there?

Makes it more annoying now that old firm drawn against each other. Would have been great chance to get to semi

And more damaged seats than the POD stand 🤣🤣

We'd have been number 6 had we got through we'd have got Celtic at Fir Park

Nae c**t

Matty for at least getting us to extra time and trying to play out quickly while they had players in our box - unfortunately the rest of the team were happy to try the slow build up.

Hindsight is wonderful, sods law.

Of course Rangers and Celtic draw each other

We need to agree to differ. I don't support Motherwell to watch the balance sheet, I watch Motherwell in the hope one day Ill live long enough to see us win a trophy again. We will lose over two legs to Freiburg , yes we will pocket £1.2 million from the European run. But if I had to choose between the League Cup in the Fir Park Trophy Cabinet and £500,000 or £1.2 million from 3 round in Europe Ill take the League Cup every day of the week.

Not a phrase aimed at me often....big hugs 🤪🤪

Absolutely not. We've already earned twice as much financially in Europe as we would if we actually won the League Cup. In a season where we aren't in Europe, I'd absolutely agree that the League Cup is a priority, but when we have more lucrative European games, and we currently sit two games away from the actual group stages and the chance to earn millions? It's not even comparable.

On top of the ones we came into the season with, we've lost Williams, Sparrow and Priestman (maybe for some time, I'm hearing) already. So there's definitely something in that...

Correct. We need to realise Europe is the icing on the cake. The League Cup and the Scottish cup are the fucking cake. The perennial fuck ups in the cups is depressing. We get to a position where we avoid the group stages and we fuck up against the easiest team left in the draw. That is entirely on the manager today. Disgraceful.

Since August 2nd, we've played Sunday, Thursday, Sunday, Thursday, Sunday. We can't keep playing our first eleven on that schedule, it'll result in injuries. I'm fairly sure with the approach at the club just now, and how the manager is known to approach things, that data will have been provided on player fitness levels and will have played a part in his selection. As I said above, something had to give, and the choice was the League Cup game.

I think most of us get the need to rest some players today. My own personal opinion would be start with more of your first team to set a tone (I'm sure Stenhousemuir got a lift seeing our team lineup) and sub first teamers off rather than on. I know the first team guys didn't make a huge difference today but I kind of feel the tone had been set by the time they came on... One of those things and there's no guarantee that we wouldn't have lost anyway but just think we probably gave an unbeaten opponent an unnecessary boost...