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Celtic dominated and deserved the win but for all their possession they didn't exactly tear us apart. Their goals came from poor basic defending and an individual error and it's this that's really holding us back this season. The goalkeeper and back four just aren't on the same level as last seasons personnel. O'Donnell had an Indian summer last season but he's done. Paulsen isn't the keeper Ward was and his distribution is no where near as good. Moormann and whoever he's playing along side aren't McGinn/Welsh level. Goals change the whole dynamic of the match and we are losing too many opening goals and goals at crucial stages of the match. There are also areas that, to be fair, haven't been addressed since the Kettlewell era, specifically right back and striker. That said I think our support could do more to help the team through a transitional period. Apparently it only took four games for the toxic element in our support to stick their heads up again.

The guy we should have went for was Valakari.

Can we get a refund then with no return postage charges.

Fuck me. Just saw our managers interview. It was a bomb scare. Talked and said nothing. What game was he watching. This guy is a fud.

I'll give any player that takes to the field for us but in all honesty, Vogt really shouldn't play for us again. Not fit enough and looked burst after half an hour, not up to the level and looked generally uninterested. I don't know what to say about Paulsen. Looked extremely suspect at the first goal but then kept us in it several times but the damage is already done. I think it's harsh to say there were no pass marks however. Said ran the show for us when he came on and I thought Palmer Holden led the line well on his own despite having very little to work with.

Sparrow may have been getting roasted but Vogts offered him no cover on our right side. Every meaningful attack from Celtic came down that side. Neither wonder Tierney got man of the match. He had the freedom of Fir Park. If I had taken his place I would have got man of the match.

That's been the last few games we seem to only be interested in going down the right side which can only be an instruction coming from the manager and it clearly isn't working,longelo is now cutting a very frustrating figure when you see him in space and isn't getting the ball.we're looking very poorly coached at the minute with the basics not even being done,as you say very worrying indeed.

I reckon he’ll walk sooner or later.

We need to sack this guy quickly. If people cant see that they are blind.

Went for the kiwi what a game he had Said was good when he came on but the goalkeeper had the full game. I think the gaffer maybe losing the dressing room

Correct and the manager should have made the change at half time. It was obvious that team selection was wrong. I said to my mate we'd wait until we were 2-0 down before we changed the team. Manager 100% culpable. No doubt everyone will blame SOD for the 2nd goal but for me it lies with Sparrow. Sparrow was getting roasted the entire game and the manager did fuck all to protect him or change..

Maybe he started him because he's losing the faith of others.

It just looks like AJ is almost being forced to play the Jens way which is why we just fuck about at the back with the passing and always go back the way. He doesn't have a clue by the looks of it and has clearly lied on his CV about his style of play 🤯 Its a Temu version of a Jens team and style.......................garbage and I agree with MJC for just about the first time in history 😜

It’s probably a bit unfair to single out Vogt. It’s not his fault that he’s not up to the standard of the league (yet?). It is, however, the manager’s fault for continuing to stick by him to the detriment of the team. And that’s probably going to be the hill he dies on.

Just don't concede inside the first 10 minutes and you'll be fine lads. Whit? Aye, never mind. Now take your pick...

I’m not in the sack the manager camp yet but he looks clueless What’s the point in the big centre forward if we’re not putting crosses into the box 5 minutes to go he’s on our 18 yard box 2 down & he’s got no pace maswanise’s been terrible lately but even I was saying get him on kanga….what even is kanga we had a blueprint to copy from last season despite losing the players & no idea where these signings fit in sad to say but this is a season too far for O’Donnell

I've got serious doubts about the manager,we're now seeing erratic team selections and far to slow to react with substitutions.i said earlier in the season that the lack of leadership in the squad was a real worry and it's showing,the fact sparrow has had the arm band says it all,we're such a soft touch to play against and this run we're on could get seriously out of hand and quick.

Pretty much saved me a post there mate. Thanks 🙂 Sparrow and his constant turning back has been a major factor in us not being able to get forward. Before the team was announced I'd have expected SOD to replace Sparrow and Knight-Lebel to replace Girdwood Reich. Vogt starting was just a joke. The attacking up the right all the time with one player who is neither a RB or an attacking midfielder and one player who isn't even a player was a tragic piece of management. Not using Longelo the way he should be is criminal and the defensive midfield not moving like they did last year (off the ball) is worrying. We've also stopped trying to move quickly at free kicks and throw ins. I could go on all day.......looks like The Swedish kettlewell has learned nothing during the break.

Lowry and Fadinger were non-existent...Said made a difference when he came off the bench

Here are the most telling stats of the game. Celtic 26 shots 15 on target Motherwell 8 shots 2 on target Celtic had 63 touches inside our box Motherwell had 20 touches inside their box Paulsen saved us from conceding 6. He made 12 saves. The most of any goalkeeper in the SPL so far this season. I could have picked a team out of the crowd that would have played better.

He’s just not a leader. He doesn’t have the presence or charisma that Jens had and it shows in the performances. When he’s trying to hold court and you’ve got players turning their back and not even listening to him then that is a serious sign that all is not well.

100% on the manager, wrong team and waited too long to make the substitutions. Celtic should have scored 7 or 8. Utterly dreadful

Poor finishing and paulsens saves it was 2 going on 8,really poor especially at home,problems all over the park,defence,mid and up front.we lack physicality all over the park,voghts has surely played his last game for us,dismal,would struggle in lower leagues,what hes done in training to get a start beggars belief.

You can't say they were all bad, i dont see anything from levitt and vigt just isn't a player...lowry , said , faddy are all good footballers but they need help.

I’m still a Motherwell fan SIWY👍