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Ward has made a couple of big errors but he's also made more than one decent save to keep us in matches - notably two at Tynecastle. I think it's pretty clear some people want Ox back and that's fair enough but Ward hasn't been all bad - just that when you make a big error - it's more noticeable Every keeper lets in goals. Kelly had a really dismal spell for us at one point - pretty prolonged if I recall and some people were saying Ox should go in goals then - I think we should give Ward a break tbh - and personally I trust JBA to make the right decision

Yes need Ox back. Ward must be in last chance saloon.

Any reason why we couldn't get that first win against Dundee?

Rome wasn't built in a day as they say........in Rome

It's the last night of my holiday, gonnae no put me on a downer!! 🤣🤣

For me the problem is more with the goalkeeper than the defence

Yeah it’s just a shame. I do get it right enough. A legendary goalkeeper for Motherwell. Weird his league cup winning medal isn’t up for sale ?

A shame but maybe the owners badly need the cash or they have no interest in or knowledge of football or Johnny's career.

Arguably two last Ssaturday, at least in part?

very good player, great servant. I know it was only a 30 min cameo in goals against Celtic but loved that particular appearance from Jamie.

I'd argue that the defence hasn't shipped too many howlers this season. Rangers goal - set piece Hearts - first goal was a belter, second goal got caught marginally with a high line, third GK error. Killie - First goal is one I'll give you, second goal GK error... Not many needless goals shipped to my mind. This is not to say Welsh won't be a decent signing. But just feel our centre halfs haven't been that culpable for goals this season...

Any news on Slattery injury yet? I've not seen update anywhere.

https://www.mctears.co.uk:443/auction/lot/lot-1807---john-johnston-of-motherwell-fc-scottish-cup-winners-medal-and-runners-up-medal/?lot=388184&so=0&st=&sto=0&au=1796&ef=&et=&ic=False&sd=0&pp=96&pn=1&g=1 I get the man is dead etc and there is money involved but I couldn’t sell anything like this from a family member. That’ll be my Motherwell blinkers going on though. I suppose if they are sold I hope they go to a good Motherwell home.

Of course I do and I have enjoyed a lot of our play so far this season and stated already that it is so much more refreshing that what we have seen in recent years where there has been virtually zero football in the team. There are positives and encouraging signs but we’ve yet to see it ‘bear fruit’ in that we have played some good stuff but failed to register a win yet and there are still question marks over the team and the manager which is perfectly reasonable and to be expected for us and especially at this stage in a new regime. I don’t see us going up to Aberdeen and getting our first win in a Cup quarter final, but hopefully it comes soon as the longer we go without getting it it becomes a bigger thing for us.

I've managed to put strikers off their shot with a well placed wee shove in the back - allegedly. If I was a keeper, though, I'd be barging players out the way and elbowing any around me, because that seems to be allowed.

What are the chances of us signing Celiks most impressive defender on loan for a year then. He is a very good signing for a wee team like us, played against big teams ,big team experience and training , big guy and a powerful defender just what we need to organise a pussy defence shipping needless goals.

I’m still struggling to see how any contact there was enough to put him off.

We are not all fur coat and no knickers. We are a team that have had three managers in the last year and who were struggling under Kettlewell for a few reasons. Players that were clearly struggling and lost confidence to boot. We were candidates for relegation at one point last season and we stayed up. The team still has to gel - that's clear. It's also clear that every player is playing for the manager and trying their best. Even Ward who has made mistakes that cost us. The negativity on here is staggering at times

I can only imagine the state you'd be in if we had lost any matches this season. Do you genuinely not get any pleasure out of watching players and systems evolve week by week? Or are you only interested in having a finished product immediately available that is going to win every game?

That’d be great but I just don’t see him getting any more than 5. Happily eat my hat to be proved wrong.

I'd like to think so

We aren't the only club in that position and Aberdeen are at the bottom of the table.

We’re basically all fur coat and no knickers and we’ve so far been unable to show that we can win games. We were never going up to Aberdeen and knocking them out of the Cup no matter who they signed.

Hope your right. This forum was generally positive about the signing when he arrived. Time wil tell.

Hendry will come good. Will get circa 15 for us this season.