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To me we’d need minimum 8 points by end of November

Nope &. Nope

I am in the backing manager camp. Yes it's not good just now but I am not at stage where we need a change. Look at hibs, aint exactly worked for them. I will look at things come end of November. As I have said on other posts AJ team selections and positions definitely need improved but players also have a responsibility, the cheap goals and basic errors aren't anything AJ can be held accountable for. We shall see how it pans out but I don't think changing manager just now is the right route to go down but everyone has their own opinion

Buddies and hibees online probably the same

Still yer big team then.

Can't be bothered looking back, but we're you as keen as this to get rid of the other managers or are you just getting in early so you can say I told you so.

Aye we are a soft touch for loosing cheap goals the now.

Genuine question for people backing the manager ( u know who u are ) if the results & the standard continues….. how long before u realistically turn? (for the record I don’t see him turning it but I’m genuinely interested in how long)

Hearts forum posts are more or less a mirror to here. Football fans eh? Which club has not had a crisis so far? Maybe we should all call it a day and save our sanity and lower our blood pressure..

Poor AJ got no luck at all. Suddenly we will be expected to beat Hearts 🤣🤣

Hard to believe it's that close - hadn't realised it was 13 goals after 9 games - amazing how the memory works. I think we went on to concede 4 goals in the following 19 games - now that would be a pattern worth pursing. 100% need to learn to shut up shop - step 1 be clear who you're back 4 should be. Step 2 - rest of team need to keep the ball and themselves moving

He was angry as we all were, we scored 2 well worked goals and lost 3 terrible goals, it wasnt even good build up play from killie.

Well Hearts got an absolute SPANKING!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Them shipping 7 goals today is promising. It’s the only positive I can think of so far. I’m not feeling any better from yesterday …. Utter disillusionment oozing from my pores

I'm not even close to fearing the worst at this point, but we do need to get the defence better organised. We have conceded 16 league goals this season, and 13 league goals at the same point last season. So there is some tightening up required, but as always in football, it's small margins. It was always a tall order to replace the Rolls Royce that is Welsh, but I still think the loss of Slattery is hurting us too as he was often the man to shut down the opposition in midfield before anything developed. We need someone else to step up and take all those yellow cards.

Knowing our luck the Hearts fans will demand a performance and we are the kind of charitable team that will donate them 3 points, don't have a ticket for this game yet and don't know if I can be arsed to try might just watch the game on the box instead, really hoping we can turn the corner but just don't see it yet

6-1 now a few mins into the 2nd half. Maybe Hearts defence is as bad as ours. MJC do you want to revise your prediction to 9-7 to them ?

Not sure if McGinn will help when he gets back or if he will be a season too far. I feel for SOD, There’s no reason we should be playing him at centre back. We need to start pairing 2 of the 3 centre backs we have available at the moment. . At right back we either play SOD or Johnny. As Soon as Oscar is ready we put him in beside Fadinger. I also think Thor deserves a chance to see if he can do anything up front. Longelo and JT booth need a good kick up the arse. our work rate on and off the ball needs to increase significantly. At the end of games last season, players looked like they had put all of their energy into the game, not so much this season. then of course, we have to cut out the stupid errors right now. While we have been struggling we would be in a better position had we not made so many individual errors which have all cost us points.

Hearts getting battered 4 nil by Celtic and it's not even half time. Maybe hope for us Sunday.

Sundays opponents currently getting their arses handed to them at Parkheed. 4-0 and it's no even half time yet.

It was a tongue in cheek comment to match the ridiculously disappointing situation we find ourselves in.

I think if the board doesn't press the button soon we are condeming ourselves even further into the mire. The brave decision is the one to bin the manager. I don't expect any manager to take a team that finished 4th and end up 12th. That's not a far reaching expectation. We've lost five in a row. We will lose again next week and eventually the more we lean on listening to those that defend Johansen the more that will lead us all the way to playing Ross County and Hamilton next season. It's actually the gutless decision I think to do nothing. Kettlewell was far too long.

Has everyone forgotten that the team under JBA was on the slide since he made an arse of the Scottish Cup game at Pittodrie . He started playing players out of position after that too , due to injuries and we just made Europe on the very last day of the season. As previously mentioned all the good players from that team have been sold and our top striker , indeed the leauges top striker has turned into a dud with no interest in playing or working hard. AJ should be given time to get us going in the right direction .Hopefully the players and the fans go along with him although I thought he looked a bit shell-shocked in post match interview .🤔

For me the biggest doubt derives from steadily getting worse as each week passes and appreciate confidence is part of the issue . July and Aug we had a similar identity - passing , ball retention etc . It’s hard not to correlate the longer the manager has had to get ideas across the worst we’ve become . it’s not obvious what we’re working on in training - put individual errors to the side - in most games we completely lose our shape and teams carve through us for long periods of time - that’s got to be down to training etc and not just individual errors