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Lets be honest Hastie wasn't that good a player he got his move on the strenght of a two or 3 month brilliant spell at Fir park which he never repeated. Rangers were naieve enogh to offer him a 4 year deal for ridiculous wages so nobody was turning that down. We all knew he would never get near the Rangers 1st team and in 4 years time he would be released into the wilderness of lower league football. If he'd stayed at Fir park would he have become a 1st team regular, for me no as he was average at best, so for me he made the right move and earned himself a good wedge of cash for basically contributing feck all.

I think £4 mill is likely the ceiling, we'd do well to get that kind of money. Transfer fees aren’t just about how good someone looks in a tournament. They’re about age, contract length, league, buying market, resale value and proven level. The Chris Wood comparison doesn’t really apply either. Wood moved for those fees because he was a proven Premier League centre-forward, with a rare physical profile and years of goals behind him. Plus, that market is completely different from a wide player coming out of Motherwell, no matter how good Elijah has looked. I would say that the World Cup absolutely raises his value. No doubt about that. That provides visibility, creates interest and maybe turns a £2m player into a £3m–£4m player if there’s a bit of competition and a bidding war or something. But £3m–£4m for a 26 year old attacking player from a non-Old Firm Scottish club would already be a very good fee. If he was 20 or 21, with the same performances and bigger resale upside, then I’d agree the number should be a bit higher. For me, the club should be aiming for a decent guaranteed fee, good add-ons, and a sell-on clause. That’s where we can protect ourselves if he goes on and proves he’s worth far more.

He was playing along side Chris Wood who has moved for 15M 25M and 15M. Just looked way better than Wood.

Sorry, should have said I`m happy if the money is correct and meets our valuation.

God, old age and forgetfullness. I can`t remember him at all.

3 to 4 mill just is a joke,class act,showed up in world cup and scored goals from midfield.

Exactly what I was thinking. If they all go, I doubt we will have as good a season, but as long as we get top 6, I would be delighted with a financially secure club.

I liked him with us.

I didn't mean that literally every youngster that moves goes to their boyhood club, but it does happen.

Jake Hastie certainly didn't go to his parents boyhood club, exactly the opposite. I know the family and his uncle said they were happy to take £7K a week off THEM.......

Just think of the chaps that did stay and did make a lot of appearances for us but never got a decent move elsewhere - Stuart Carswell, Barry Maguire and Jack Leitch to name but three. I fear that Ewan Wilson and Luca Ross may follow them.

James Furlong is out of contract Still only 24 and did alright with us in previous loan spell Might be a good signing

I think that’s fair to an extent, but I’d say that’s slightly separate from the point I’m making. I completely agree that uprooting at 16 and moving hundreds of miles away, or even abroad, is a huge decision and not every young player will be comfortable doing that. But we’re still talking about young lads making career decisions in an industry where the odds of making it long term are incredibly small, and where one injury can change everything very quickly. Some will value first team football above everything else. Some will value financial security. Some will value staying close to family. Some will back themselves enough to take a bigger gamble elsewhere. I just think supporters are a bit too quick to look at it entirely through a footballing lens and say “he should have stayed here, played 50 games and got a better move later”. The problem is football careers don’t follow neat scripts like that. Plenty of boys stay, never kick on, lose form, get injured or disappear down the leagues. It’s easy to say what the right choice was after the fact. Much harder when you’re 16 and trying to make a decision that could shape the rest of your life.

I can see both sides of the argument but relocating away from home, at 16, to a club miles away i.e. Brighton is a big move that will cause a major disruption to family life. Not all youngsters are cut out for that.

I think a lot of supporters massively overestimate how predictable football development actually is. I see it said that Rice should have stayed because he’d have had 50 games with us and earned a bigger move later. Maybe. But statistically, most academy players never make it that far. Across professional football, the majority of academy players are out of the game entirely by 21. Even at clubs like ours, dozens sign professional deals over a decade and only a small percentage become established first team players. Then add injury risk. One bad injury at 18 and suddenly that “big move later” never comes. It’s easy to point at Lennon Miller now, but Lennon is clearly an exceptional talent. Using the most successful academy player we’ve had in years as the benchmark for every youngster is hindsight. At 16 or 17, if someone offers you serious money, elite facilities and a different pathway, I don’t think taking that deal is mental at all. Supporters always talk about what players might earn in the future. Players have to think about what happens if that future never arrives.

It's the perfect comparison, is it not? They're both the same age, played together all the way through the age groups and a couple of people involved have actually said Rice was potentially the better player. Then 1 of them decides to stay and get 2 seasons of first team football under his belt and is now a Scotland international playing in Serie A while the other has stagnated with a handful of games to his name, but at least his Da' can tell all his mates his boy plays for the Rangers.

I would think thats about right. We wont make as much money as other clubs from players because of the wages we pay, but we no longer need to roll over and take the first offer that comes in. The remainder of our sellable assets are under contract, so we can extract a little bit more than we would have in the past because we are now on a stable financial footing.

TBF it takes a lot more courage to leave home as a teenager and move down to England or to a foreign country than it does to stay with your parents and drive into Glasgow.

SUN is saying we value him at £3m

Apologies for the clumsy wording. I meant release clauses.

100% Rice was doing just fine until he suffered a bad injury. Promoted to their first team squad, youngest player to feature in the first team, featuring in European games. Captain of Scottish U19s as well I think. Then injured and a seat on the sidelines as the Club became a basket case and went through a string of Managers and coaches. Still under 20 with a healthy bank balance. He also had plenty of options this time round as several decent English teams and at least two overseas sides wanted to sign him. So he must have been convinced he had a future at Ibrox to sign a new deal. And they must have faith in him as the persuaded him to stay. Yet again Rice made the decision he thought was best for him. As he should do. Isn't it telling though. Because he abandoned us for an OF team he got vilified at the time. As did Hastie. Whereas others who opted for England or overseas as youngsters are viewed as being brave for seeking a fresh challenge and looking to further their careers. I would have preferred him to stay, but we got a good fee when Rice left, plus add ons. Much better for instance than when Max Johnstone opted to walk away after only 21 first team games. As he was entitled to do.

Are we going to have a team left?

Not convinced they would be unless its specifically a release clause. Those figures could change drastically over 6 months