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Say it ain't so! Oh, well, I'll just have to wait until I am Supreme Leader of the Scottish Republic ✊.

Not me! My lowly ancestors came across the Channel with William the Conquerer!

@Kmcalpin: FTS it's time you were King of Scots again ✊🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿✊. Might have a chance of the title.

Agreed: so this must be down to incompetence or something worse, surely? The usual get-out is for referees being "psychologically influenced" by a large crowd but this could hardly have applied at FP yesterday, given the lesser size of the Hibs support. When I think of our two dubious sendings off against the Mutton Molesters in the cup with your litany of Cadden's offences I'm beginning to smell a rat 🧐. It seems VAR deliberations now are a kind of Easter-like moveable feast, where an excuse can always be found to support a inconsistent application of the laws when it suits. And yes, taking spontaneity out of the game is actually a disincentive for spectators to come to see what is supposed to be entertainment, despite all our club's best efforts this season. All in all, it's somewhat disappointing 👹👹👹👹👹👹..........

Comonplace now in games and we saw it most recently when Dundee United players were harassing the ref. As for Nicky Cadden, he was very lucky to stay on the pitch, but in reality wasn't even yellow carded. He put in a late tackle on SOD (worse than Sparrow's yellow card tackle) and was warned by the ref. Then as you say, he went head to head with SOD, lifted his hands and pushed him aggressively in the chest (not merely pushing him away). Still no yellow card. After that he put in another bookable late tackle and wasn't even warned.

Fact you have tipped us to get at least 1pt concerns me 🤣🤣

We will draw with Falkirk and lose to Hearts. We have peaked.

The OF are subjected to the same delays, but it's at least worth the wait for them. Of all the issues, I think removing the spontaneity of a goal celebration is VAR's biggest crime. It's literally what we pay our money to experience.

It's got so bad that, as yesterday, I don't stand up spontaneously to celebrate a goal much any more: I often await the probable VAR review. So am I getting the wrong impression when I think that the OF aren't affected to the same extent by VAR decisions 🤔?

True, wherever you place the decision point, that’s where the argument will centre around.

Looking at top 6 teams none of them performing at top level over the last 6 games hearts 2 losses rangers 3 draws celtic lost 2 and 1 draw motherwell lost 2 and 1 draw hibs 3 draws and 1 loss falkirk 3 losses and 1 draw

Trouble is, "blatantly obvious" is just as much a judgement call as any other way you can decide it with a human involved. Until the ball and everyone's extremities have millimetre-perfect position sensors in them and offside calls are made my some magically-infallible computer, there will always be controversial decisions.

Yesterday’s result a wee bit more disappointing now after seeing that Celtic got beat today. Go to keep the faith though. We know there will be bumps but I trust JBA to keep us going in the right direction. I think we Missed Longelo more than some people thought we might have. Fancy us to beat Falkirk and then our game at Hearts should be a good one.

I’m not aware of any changes having been made to VAR and offside, so the way things are it was the correct call but I’m all for scrapping the lines and unless playback shows it to be blatantly obvious, on side or off side, the on field call should stand.

It's simply not fit for purpose and that's been proved time after time since it's inception. You would think that things would improve through time but if anything the decision making is getting worse each season and that's worrying.

I agree with that. He needs a club where he has complete freedom to implement his ideas, allowed to bring in the players he wants, and patience from the fans. Neither of the OF sides would allow that.

No surprise that the VAR review quickly turned into the VAR Justification Show.

Tight but correct call. Was exact same as one Killie had chopped off against us. Jens should be more concerned about that effort being only 1 of 2 shots on target in 94 mins

JBA sums up the current state of Scottish VAR perfectly in this article from the Sun https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/16067918/askou-fumes-var-lines-drawn-by-five-year-old/

Previously he's said if the leg bends (as it this case) it's a red. They also said he's in control of the ball, he's not even looking at it.

Definitely overthinking it, we are 6 pts ahead because we have been better than hibs, Of course anything can happen but they must be more disappointed than us

The manager also needs to call out the treatment wee Just is getting just now. It’s an utter disgrace. I watched him closely yesterday and it’s constant. More so than any of our other players. Maybe Maswanhise as well but it’s obvious how Just is targeted.

I think I’d rather play Falkirk and hearts than Killie and Aberdeen tbh these Sides are a nightmare to play against at the moment ((Dundee like) they are fighting and scrapping for everything, I fancy Killie to beat most sides just now especially on the plastic and Robinson tore strips off them yesterday so I’d expect a reaction from Aberdeen ….but I do get Butcher vibes at Hibs from him/them…. Which would be very funny.

There are a lot of ifs and buts before it gets anywhere close to being 50/50 IMO.

Like Hibs , other teams will set up like this against us , those two lines in front on us made it tricky to do anything . id add to that having 4 centralish midfielders didn’t give the right balance . When teams play like this against us we need guys to carry the ball forward . Whether it be wingbacks or others . yesterday we played too many backward passes or then tries the eye of the needle to get through 2 lines straight to JT - it simply won’t work . thankfully we have an incredible manager who I’m sure will adapt the team for Falkirk