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I think you mean TF !!!!

First of all pretty much every club that replaced a manager this season went backwards or at least didn't improve any - Aberdeen, Hibs, Dundee, St. Mirren. You could even argue Rangers went backwards, at least in terms of their league challenge when Gerard left. The idea that you replace the manager and things get better just doesn't stand up. The context of the Scottish league is such that the major problems for any manager don't actually change any by replacing one for another, especially when the main thread of criticism is 'better style of football'. The players just aren't there to play good football. Across the league we export anyone with a hint of talent almost immediately. Season after season after season of sold off talent is why we are where we are. At Motherwell and pretty much across Scotland. Only Rangers and Celtic have the millions to replace who they sell. Secondly if you look at the clubs that actually got top 6, they were all managers that were supported by their clubs through quite severe criticism from fans that, quite frankly, often are more concerned about cathartic output than level headed analysis. Hearts fans were desperate for Robbie Neilson to start badly this term so they could continue their Jettison The Manager campaign. Ross County waited till round 11 of the season before they got a win, Dundee Utd had the second worst run of defeats (6) and had a run of 2 wins in 16 mid season. Yet by sticking by the manager they all achieved top 6 finishes. Meanwhile, outside the Top 6, Hibs and their clown owner fired two managers and are currently 8th in the league on a run of 2 wins in 16. The same record Aberdeen currently have although they are even more lowly in 10th. Dundee sacked a manager and haven't won a game since, while St Johnstone stuck with Davidson, despite 8 losses in a row (the worst run of any team this season) and they might well survive. Certainly they have a better chance. I've been arguing for year and years about the steep decline of Scottish football. When we do relatively well people don't want to hear because they feel it is a sort of attack on the achievements of the team. When we do poorly folk make the usual reflex kick at the managers and pile 25 years of game wide mismanagement across Scottish football on a provincial coach a season and a half in. It's time supporters start actually talking a wider view on the poor standards of Scottish football. Every single manager in this league, newly appointed or not, is swimming against a tide of decline decades old.

Generally see a difference in tone and hoping the penny has dropped . we do the ugly side of the game really well. just give us something to cheer . Here’s hoping

Ya Bezzer makes a fair point, and its that kind of realism that has kept me from calling for the managers head despite the atrociously poor fayre we have had to endure this season and the very poor run since xmas. All that said, there are some things to like about this team. They definitely do appear to have a certain mental strength about them. Numerous times this season we have gone behind and come back to snatch points that appeared gone. There were certainly some games in the first half of the season when we won games by the sheer force of willpower. That level of grit and determination forged a pretty strong bond between the fans the players and the manager early on in the season. Its a shame it was mostly undone in the second half. The last few weeks though I have seen hints of a change of attitude from Alexander in respect our style of play. We played a lot more thru the midfield last week and the little bits I saw today seemed to be the same. That is encouraging, and with some of the things he has said in interviews this week it it clear he knows fine well what we have all been saying and appears he seems minded to address it. Thats all I needed to see and hear. If it continues for the final 2 games and there is a clear plan in place to improve the squad for hopefully a tilt at europe, then he will have earned my respect back and the right to go into next season with my full support.

My opinion of him hasn't changed but you know what today is not the day for that . It's about having only my 2nd Saturday night this year where I can celebrate a league win and share loads of jokes with Mrs grizzly.....(as she gets stuck into a bottle of prosecco to numb the pain) lol......enjoy yer night folks....COYW

Nice to get some payback with the soft PK

Cancels out the soft one buddies got v us earlier in the season

A 'Carroll' as its known in the trade

It's like a cup final for us and we need to treat it like one. Forget about the last 4 months and all the negativity for one night, we are one game away from a possible European spot and everything that brings to the club in terms of kudos,finance and attracting better players. We can argue about Alexander on the Thursday morning.

So what benefit will the club get then ? Or is it just your usual shite patter with nothing constructive to back it up

Got to admit we are a team for radio

Thought today was an awful game and showed up our many limitations however just like the Livingston game the only thing that mattered was the result. The players stuck to their task and we were LONG overdue a bit of luck which we got. Dundee Utd are utter shite. Taken 9 points off us and have never been the better team. I think they are the Jammiest team in the league. I got a terrible feeling they'll fluke some kind of result tomorrow.

It's called karma. What goes around comes around. Yes.

Chalmers polworth lawless thomas 3rd tier ahoy. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch

If we beat Hearts we'll be fine - unless County beat Rangers.

Did we win a game of football?

I'm away to change ma pants.

Absolutely mega result, and a really good performance. Maybe not a "good" performance, but an effective one. Liam Kelly is worth his weight in gold. We are lucky to have him.

Not me

Fuck sake Donnelly....

Should have been over and done with weeks ago

Can't see anything changing - it's part of who he is, a hot head. If we was more consistent he would be with a bigger club than us commanding a very decent salary. Although frustrating I can't help but warm to him. A little bit like Ainsworth, on his day can do brilliant things but a frustrating bugger most of the time.

with injures we could try something completely bonkers - put woolery in as wingback and give him space to go charging up the flank. A 3-5-1-1 formation may suit us. Hope Tierney is fit - he's the one likely to get on the end of something.