Kmcalpin 1,210 Report post Posted July 28, 2015 Obviously Ross County were prepared to pay Celtic a development fee and the player himself a substantial wage. We move on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Welldaft Mk1 610 Report post Posted July 28, 2015 He's just signed for Ross County on a two year deal. Shame - would have liked him at us. Roy McGregor splashing the cash. Similar to Pearson but more of a goal threat from what I saw last year. Hopefully other irons in the fire as it were........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
underboyleheating 1,497 Report post Posted July 28, 2015 Similar to Pearson but more of a goal threat from what I saw last year. A good young prospect, however, according to his Wiki page stats he only scored 2 goals in 25 appearances for Ross County last year and 1 in 27 appearances when on loan with Kilmarnock. I am sure that Barra and his contacts will have another player in mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
faddythedaddy 238 Report post Posted July 28, 2015 Never trust a man with 2 first names anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casagolda 31 Report post Posted July 28, 2015 The Sun now covering the Jackson Irvine link according to the bbc gossip page. I'm hoping there is something in this. The Sun are out of the loop as usual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MelvinBragg 976 Report post Posted July 28, 2015 Never trust a man with 2 first names anyway Bad news for Wes Fletcher... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tickle Pickle 30 Report post Posted July 28, 2015 Just reading Jackson Irvine's very honest interview on the move, basically Celtic told him he was free to go but tried to offer him new terms so that they could get compensation from whoever took him, thus getting more money i'd imagine. So if us and County were the only 2 teams in for him thats a good insight on Celtics outlook on their transfer policy. Makes me hate them a little bit more. "It has been a long month or so, trying to get everything in place. I'm sure you're familiar with the compensation laws regarding players under 23, so Celtic did offer me a new contract. But it was essentially just as insurance so that, when I did leave, they were liable to claim their compensation money. There was never really any plan for me to [stay there]. I was told from the very beginning of the summer I was free to move on elsewhere. It was just about the club sorting the financial side of it, as well as myself. Unfortunately, we didn't part on the kind of terms I would have liked to after nearly six years with Celtic, but I will be hoping to be involved on Saturday." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Welldaft Mk1 610 Report post Posted July 28, 2015 Just reading Jackson Irvine's very honest interview on the move, basically Celtic told him he was free to go but tried to offer him new terms so that they could get compensation from whoever took him, thus getting more money i'd imagine. So if us and County were the only 2 teams in for him thats a good insight on Celtics outlook on their transfer policy. Makes me hate them a little bit more. Glad we never had to pay the barstewards after all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weeyin 4,182 Report post Posted July 28, 2015 Just reading Jackson Irvine's very honest interview on the move, basically Celtic told him he was free to go but tried to offer him new terms so that they could get compensation from whoever took him, thus getting more money i'd imagine. So if us and County were the only 2 teams in for him thats a good insight on Celtics outlook on their transfer policy. Makes me hate them a little bit more. Is that not exactly what we did with Lee Erwin? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAM 8 Report post Posted July 28, 2015 Lee Miller in talks i'm hearing... another striker? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jamesc 9 Report post Posted July 28, 2015 Lee Miller in talks i'm hearing... another striker? Livingston have just knocked him back after a trial there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superward 864 Report post Posted July 28, 2015 Lee Miller would be a very odd one. Don't need another striker and I don't rink he even really could offer cover in midfield could he? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steelboy 1,295 Report post Posted July 28, 2015 Is that not exactly what we did with Lee Erwin? No because if Erwin signed the deal he would have been an integral part of our squad. If Irvine signed the deal with Celtic they would have let him rot for two years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted July 28, 2015 It's just good business really. Imagine if we didn't offer Lee Erwin a contract. People would go mental! Note - slightly different I know but still Quite. I mean, obviously, fuck Celtic, but we'd do exactly the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steelboy 1,295 Report post Posted July 28, 2015 Quite. I mean, obviously, fuck Celtic, but we'd do exactly the same. I don't think we would at all. As Irvine implies Celtic shafted him. By offering him a contract it meant if he refused it any club who signed him would be on the hook for potentially 300k compo to Celtic basically making him unemployable. Celtic wanted to force him to sign the contract then find a team willing to pay them a smaller fee to sign him. Offering a contract whilst also saying he has no future with them isn't how the system is meant to work. It's scummy behaviour and a poor way to treat a footballer they are trying to develop. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weeyin 4,182 Report post Posted July 28, 2015 No because if Erwin signed the deal he would have been an integral part of our squad. If Irvine signed the deal with Celtic they would have let him rot for two years. Aye, but we knew he wasn't going to sign. As for whether it's scummy or not, thanks to Bosman, there aren't many ways to make money from transfers these days. The first step that made the rich teams richer and killed the smaller teams like us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermarv 133 Report post Posted July 28, 2015 Livingston have just knocked him back after a trial there.He is still training with them and still trying to earn a deal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steelboy 1,295 Report post Posted July 28, 2015 Aye, but we knew he wasn't going to sign. As for whether it's scummy or not, thanks to Bosman, there aren't many ways to make money from transfers these days. The first step that made the rich teams richer and killed the smaller teams like us. Celtic have basically held him to ransom. They are saying you have honoured your contract and we don't want you to play here but you can't sign for anyone else unless we get a fee. A very poor way to treat a guy they brought over from Australia and the fee they will get is a relative pittance. It's the equivalent of us blocking a new club for Carswell or McHugh for the sake of five grand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steelboy 1,295 Report post Posted July 28, 2015 If no one was willing to pay a fee they would probably have tried to loan him again to cover part of his wages. Celtic have treated him as an asset to make money out of rather than as young footballer trying to forge a career. When clubs decide they don't want to develop players any further or use them in the first team they should let them go no strings attached. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kmcalpin 1,210 Report post Posted July 28, 2015 Just seen Ross county signed a goalie on loan from Stoke Aye not much taller than Dan...only 6-3. They've already signed Scott Fox from Partick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steelboy 1,295 Report post Posted July 28, 2015 It's possible that the fee or part of it will end up coming out of Irvine's pocket due to a reduced signing on fee. I haven't heard of this scenario before but it doesn't surprise me Celtic are the club involved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spiderpig 1,161 Report post Posted July 28, 2015 He was a celtic player who signed for Ross county does anybody really give a feck, i dont. More interested in who we sign, ie a new keeper and a holding midfield player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malky79 58 Report post Posted July 28, 2015 Celtic need to get a return from their youth system same as any club. You don't let a saleable asset go for free. They are fortunate to be in a position to take the risk of being stuck with a player they don't need. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt_oats 508 Report post Posted July 28, 2015 Recently released (former) player update: Fraser Kerr playing with Oldham Athletic tonight. https://twitter.com/matt_chambers_/status/626110624079183872 Francis-Angol playing for Leyton Orient https://twitter.com/totalorient/status/626088802713530368 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GazzyB 1,337 Report post Posted July 29, 2015 Fraser Kerr has an interesting hairstyle on him. Undercut with a sort of hair bun. Just hit a pass straight out of play. Sensational from Twitter! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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