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Obvious to say it, but Bobby Ferrier is a most worthy addition to the Hall of Fame. I am just a little surprised that he was not inducted at the same time as George Stevenson, seeing as the pair were famed as a combination as much as for their individual abilities, but that obviously isn't how these things work and his inclusion is no less deserving because of that.

The piece on the official website is excellent and well worth a read, but if you get the chance, look out for the obituary written by Bobby Ferrier's son which was included in the book written for our centenary by John Swinburne.

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Yes I would have thought that they would have inducted Stevenson and Ferrier together. Next, I'd like to see Hughie Ferguson included and also some members of our league championship winning team.

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He and George Stevenson were the legendary 'Well left wing pairing in the early Thirties and the story is that Herbert Chapman, the Arsenal chairman, offered Sailor Hunter a blank cheque for the duo, which was refused. 

Unfortunately, Bobby was born in Sheffield of Scottish parents and so could not wear the dark blue as rules stood at the time.

I actually worked with a man who had seen them play and watched the league-winning team as a very young boy.

And so we go on......

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Take anyone into the Hall of Fame, except for Thomas,"CELTIC" Boyd, absolute plonker. You would think a cup winning captain would be a shoe in fo HOF, but absolutely no way!!!!!!!! 

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2 hours ago, Robbos boy said:

Take anyone into the Hall of Fame, except for Thomas,"CELTIC" Boyd, absolute plonker. You would think a cup winning captain would be a shoe in fo HOF, but absolutely no way!!!!!!!! 

He'll probably get in though, watching the seethe online will be epic too. 
 

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On 10/29/2021 at 7:08 PM, SteelmaninOZ said:

Well here’s a former club  captain goes into the Hall of Fame 

 

Could do with Craggs back working with the youth set up,   no sign of any youths breaking through to first team which I find very  sad

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21 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

Could do with Craggs back working with the youth set up,   no sign of any youths breaking through to first team which I find very  sad

The youths haven't had games for about 2 seasons now thanks to Covid. And the last time there was a league it was Reserves rather than youngsters - which was one of the reasons Craggs stepped away from the set-up.

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32 minutes ago, weeyin said:

The youths haven't had games for about 2 seasons now thanks to Covid. And the last time there was a league it was Reserves rather than youngsters - which was one of the reasons Craggs stepped away from the set-up.

Fair do's and understand.  Hopefully we will go back to producing our own instead of thinking every English lower league player is the next louis moult,

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20 hours ago, SteelmaninOZ said:

Good one

 

Fantastic choice!

I remember as a boy in 9th Motherwell Boys Brigade he used to present the awards at the Parents nights. We were all in awe of him!

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2 hours ago, SteelmaninOZ said:

Another legend 


 

 

Seems fair enough. He has probably done as much for the club, in a key role, as anyone in the forty p,us years I have been a  'Well fan.

 

With regard to some of the current criticism of the style of football being played, it should be noted that some of his teams were less than attractive on the eye for us football purists. They were obviously different times, where a manager was given time to develop a squad and build for the longer term. Not sure if that s possible in the here and now.

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4 hours ago, The African said:

With regard to some of the current criticism of the style of football being played, it should be noted that some of his teams were less than attractive on the eye for us football purists. They were obviously different times, where a manager was given time to develop a squad and build for the longer term. Not sure if that s possible in the here and now.

Absolutely. Some of his early teams would have been chronically dire to watch for many modern generations fans. Expectations were far lower in those days and for most fans a win was sufficient entertainment. Promotion of the English Premeir League has changed all of that.

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1 hour ago, Kmcalpin said:

Absolutely. Some of his early teams would have been chronically dire to watch for many modern generations fans.

They were chronic for us to watch at the time too - Gordon (Night) Mair, Derek (Ruby) Murray, to name but a few - shivers brrrrr.

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30 minutes ago, steelman1991 said:

They were chronic for us to watch at the time too - Gordon (Night) Mair, Derek (Ruby) Murray, to name but a few - shivers brrrrr.

Better players than some of the garbage we've had to endure in recent years. 

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The difference with McLeans teams were that he was bringing us up from the old First Division and had to play a certain way to keep us in the league. His teams were always set up first and foremost to be hard to beat,  and sometimes it wasnt pretty, but over time that changed. The team that finished 3rd and nearly won the league were great to watch. Of course that was pre Bosman so you didnt have the same turnover of players every season and building a team over time was still a thing you could do.  

We all have to accept that, whether we like our current style of play or not, GA has us sitting comfortably mid table and unless that changes he is not going anywhere.  That said, Im not sure any of Wee Tommys teams gave away 65% possession of the ball to St Mirren at home.  He would have went ballistic!

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35 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said:

The difference with McLeans teams were that he was bringing us up from the old First Division and had to play a certain way to keep us in the league.

They were - but he only got away with it in his first SPL season thanks to reconstruction, as we finished  in a relegation spot despite parking the bus and winning only 7 games. The league structure didn't encourage risk taking football of course, with 2 from 10 being relegated every season.

As you say, though, he slowly changed that over time and when players like Russell and Cooper were introduced our focus and tactics changed for the better.

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The most common refrain from the crowd at the time was ‘Resign McLean’.

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4 hours ago, steelman1991 said:

Absloutley no way mate - they were the bottom of the pile when it came to dross.

I didn't say that they were good but we've had worse.

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1 hour ago, ropy said:

The most common refrain from the crowd at the time was ‘Resign McLean’.

Big kirkie used to endure some amount of stick. 

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1 minute ago, well_said said:

I didn't say that they were good but we've had worse.

:lol: I don't think we have - they were 2 of the worst in living memory. They were really awful.

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1 minute ago, well_said said:

Big kirkie used to endure some amount of stick. 

Didn't he just - along with Big Buff when he first arrived.

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15 minutes ago, steelman1991 said:

:lol: I don't think we have - they were 2 of the worst in living memory. They were really awful.

I'll get back to you when I come up with some names. 

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