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Motherwell v St Mirren 27/10/2021

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1 hour ago, wellsince75 said:

just back from hols and watched the highlights.

Overall we looked pretty poor apart from the golden 15 minute spell where we grabbed the 2 goals. That said the match officials have been really poor. 

Solhom was pulled down in the first half. If he had the cuteness of Brophy we'd have a certain pen.. 
Watts pen. First tackle was poor in the box and why the keeper wasn't booked or sent off is a bit odd. 
Their pen .  Very soft, almost as if the ref was looking to find a way to even things out.
The retake - a joke. 

I don't believe the officials are biased or anti Motherwell , just poor. 

In theory these things balance out over the season but we need to learn to be a bit more savvy in both boxes. 

 

I can handle the poor calls except for the penalty retake. That was completely ridiculous. Even if his back foot was off the line (which it does not seem to be) that is way too close for the linesman to call while determining when the ball started to move. My only explanation is that the linesman does not know the rules. Sees his front foot well off the line ahead of the ball moving and calls it based on that. 

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2 hours ago, texanwellfan said:

I can handle the poor calls except for the penalty retake. That was completely ridiculous. Even if his back foot was off the line (which it does not seem to be) that is way too close for the linesman to call while determining when the ball started to move. My only explanation is that the linesman does not know the rules. Sees his front foot well off the line ahead of the ball moving and calls it based on that. 

The bawbag clearly saw it in the Man U game at the weekend and decided he wanted to give one. 

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Madden denied Livi a penalty in the 89th minute. Hart absolutely smashed big Obileye. It's a jail sentence compared to the one against big Sol.

The refs in this country are unreal. 

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Boabby denies Livi a stonewaller late in the Celtic game today and gives them a 90th minute pen but it was saved lol.

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15 minutes ago, pretzel said:

Boabby denies Livi a stonewaller late in the Celtic game today and gives them a 90th minute pen but it was saved lol.

No re take?

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Just seen the Celtic penalty incident, Madden thinks its acceptable for a Livi player to have his head taken off his shoulders by Hart  but no penalty given, then up the Livi end the keeper has the ball in his hands, Kyogo pushes the Livi defender who then slaps the back of his head, he falls to the ground holding his face and a pen is given and the defender is red carded.

Also, Brophy tried his trick again today for St Mirren against Dundee  around the 50th min but no pen.

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That’s Livi taken four points out of six against Celtic this season. Amazing, when you consider the difference in budgets, eh? :whistling:

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1 minute ago, texanwellfan said:

No re take?

Surprisingly no. I'm sure he'll be having flashbacks from Wednesday night wishing he could reuse that lifeline today lol. In all seriousness it just goes to show he is a rotten official, but I'm sure he'll be listed for a top tier game next week despite this weeks performances.

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1 hour ago, texanwellfan said:
1 hour ago, pretzel said:

Boabby denies Livi a stonewaller late in the Celtic game today and gives them a 90th minute pen but it was saved lol.

No re take?

Just watched a replay of the Celtic pen and it does show goalie had both feet off line. No retake.....who's the ref??? The one and only Boaby Madden. You couldn't make this shit up...

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1 hour ago, gazzetta19 said:

Just watched a replay of the Celtic pen and it does show goalie had both feet off line. No retake.....who's the ref??? The one and only Boaby Madden. You couldn't make this shit up...

To be fair, the more important question is who the linesman was. He should be the one to make that call.

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4 hours ago, MJC_mkII said:

That’s Livi taken four points out of six against Celtic this season. Amazing, when you consider the difference in budgets, eh? :whistling:

Yes it certainly is, given the difference in budget.. Celtic's 244pts total over the last 3 Spfl seasons to Livis 118 is where the budget difference really shows however. 

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3 hours ago, numpty said:

To be fair, the more important question is who the linesman was. He should be the one to make that call.

Watch the highlights, that Bawbag madden is staring  right at the keeper, who clearly has 2 feet over the line before the ball is hit, no need for input from the lino for that one, pen saved and no retake it's a feckin disgrace.

 

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7 hours ago, numpty said:

To be fair, the more important question is who the linesman was. He should be the one to make that call.

Absofuckinlutely. Madden has no say in the re-take of the penalty, it is all down to the linesman.

 

The Old Firm levels of paranoia about him ordering retakes and not ordering one today is nonsensical.

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Must be one of the few occasions I'm not actually that annoyed about the refereeing decisions as the collapse in the late second half totally merited us getting horsed never mind a draw. 

Our defence at the end of the day allows continuous St Mirren presence in our box and that is the source of my anger from the game. Aye I'm pissed off about the ref but more so about our approach to the game and performance.

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7 hours ago, GazzyB said:

Absofuckinlutely. Madden has no say in the re-take of the penalty, it is all down to the linesman.

 

Correct it’s the linesman’s call. In midweek the linesman guessed there is no way he saw both Kelly’s feet of the line. 
 

These arseholes need to get themselves up to speed Goalkeepers now practice springing forward off one foot  while keeping the hell of the other on the line.

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Madden started it with the shocking penalty decision but the retake is all on the linesman,he has one job to do in that situation to make sure the keeper stays on his line,which isn't hard and he failed miserably.i bet we could go the rest of the season and not see another retaking penalty,it was a fucking joke of a decision.

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8 hours ago, GazzyB said:

Absofuckinlutely. Madden has no say in the re-take of the penalty, it is all down to the linesman.

Its Madden's call end of. The linesman can only advise, and in this case he may have done. However the referee can choose to overrule his linesman and many do so. The linesman cannot overrule his referee.

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12 hours ago, Kmcalpin said:

Its Madden's call end of. The linesman can only advise, and in this case he may have done. However the referee can choose to overrule his linesman and many do so. The linesman cannot overrule his referee.

Why would he ever choose to overrule the guy who’s one job it is to stare at the keeper’s feet and see if he comes off his line early?

 

You may well be right that Madden might have the option to overrule the linesman, but blaming him for a bad call is just nonsensical when he is going to go by what the linesman says 100 times out of 100. 

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9 hours ago, GazzyB said:

Why would he ever choose to overrule the guy who’s one job it is to stare at the keeper’s feet and see if he comes off his line early?

 

You may well be right that Madden might have the option to overrule the linesman, but blaming him for a bad call is just nonsensical when he is going to go by what the linesman says 100 times out of 100. 

Where referees are concerned anything goes. Its not unknown for a referee to tell his linesmen before kick off that he won't truck any advice......stick to shies, by kicks, corners and offsides. 

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