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I've said it over and over, I don't think the football is good right now. But people saying they don't remember a time when it's ever been so bad? It was worse just over a year ago. Other folk saying we have nothing to play for but survival? We are 1 point off 4th! We have a realistic chance of going further in the cup, finishing top 6, winning more games than last season, scoring more goals than last season, conceding less than last season, gaining more points than last season. I think the whole thing with Covid and people not being able to attend games before the start of this season has put some peoples sense of perspective out of kilter. The truth is we've been honking to watch, bar a David Turnbull inspired spell, since the money tap was screwed closed in the later days of McCall's era. It's nothing new.

The booing can fuck off. I absolutely hate it.

Couldnt bring myself to comment yesterday, it was dire. I cant even drum up the enthusiasm to rant about. So much wrong but if theres a slight chance GA reads these boards for inspiration, a laugh or just interest then..... - zero attempt to play football through the midfield - aimless punts up the park - 2 shots on target all game (when their keeper is plucked from juniors) shocking - 73 minutes till making a sub suggests that he seems to think what we were doing was working..... GA can bang on all he wants about cutting out mistakes and taking chances, that is absolutley fair however he needs to try and set us up to win games I honestly think we probably have the best set of players we have had for a good few years now. They are being hamstrung by crazy tactics and no attempts to play football.

Totally agree with this Appreciate people are frustrated but the booing and abuse of our own players is out of order.

In the last few games Dundee have beaten Hearts at Tynecastle, lost narrowly at Celtic Park and got a draw against Hibernian. They are hardly in disastrous form. As for us, we are on a poor run but we've never lost more than 2 games in a row and there has been 5 draws in the 10. We should be performing better but it's hardly a sackable offence.

goss is an empty strip oh n heez a shitebag tae

Playing suggestions: Vary the types of corners vary the types of throw in just clear the F’n ball when under pressure leave A man upfield when defending corners cut down the number of long “passes” alright now and again but try and make the better percentage chance of us winning them players have to show for the ball to give passing options do the players even know what an overlapping run is? Some of them would be good could go on but you can only address so much at a time but most of the above could quickly and easily be addressed.

Isn't somebody getting paid to do that?

I believe we have some decent players, who under a different system would add value. I don't understand why we don't try and pass, move, create space etc. overall it's approach that's annoyed me since pre season and yes we miss having the class of Watt in our team - more for how he brought people into the game than just his goals.

I am a Steelman claret and amber in my veins and we should all get behind the team the fans are the 12th man. Oh and happy birthday RT 21 the day

4-4-2 over 4-3-3 to save being overrun is a nonsense.

If the manager allows the reaction of the fans to dictate how he manages the team then we're in bigger trouble than I thought. Nah, if fans are happy to dish out abuse throughout the game to a player they need to expect to get told to pipe down now and then. Don't dish it if you can't take it and all that.

Not if he says up yours and goes through the motions and doesn’t try a feck … … then we’re £100 grand and 6 months wages down Caught between devil and the deep blue sea … … no win situation … … don’t think he’s set the heather on fire at United

I don't often have a go at our board but they have royally fucked us by letting Watt go for 100 grand. There are rumours that he was unhappy and wanted away, but it shoulda been a case of "too fuckin bad".

There have been some other factors but essentially you're right Yorky. We need a bit of nous up front and someone who can hold play up and link up with others. He was worth a goal a game which makes all the difference in a tight contest. Where GA has gone wrong is not planning properly for him moving on given that we knew he was unsettled for months.

Although I am not one to boo our own players during the game. The players and the tactics are stinking. Boo away if ye feel like it.

You’re spot on. It has been absolutely turgid for years and I do think a lot of the blame ultimately comes back to the board. There is absolutely no vision at board level for the club on a footballing level - it’s crystal clear at the AGM’s. Yes, Burrows puts a shift in and our social media is neat and tidy but when it comes to the direction of travel, we simply don’t have it. No harm to the guys, but it’s a board of directors populated by old men with largely accountancy backgrounds that have neither the vision nor foresight to strategically plan for what we want to achieve in terms of product. If they don’t have it, we should be bringing in a director of football to ensure a top down vision or bottom up vision. That lack of strategy at the top means that we come down to the whims of managers whom we entrust to provide the big vision and therefore you have phases like Robinson’s ‘throw enough lower league English shite at a wall’ or Alexander’s particular brand of eye bleed. Managers are there to facilitate the will of the club, not to determine the will; but that’s not the situation we have. It means that we have season after season of turnaround - stop/start youth progression and a complete feeling of disillusion which manifests in what we see now. The atmosphere is dreadful and how could it not be? I, like others have said, found myself last season and this thinking for the first time ever in 30+ years - maybe I’ll give the game a swerve this week. The league being as it is, means that it wouldn’t have taken much investment in January to have cantered to 4th but we didn’t. We sat on the record profits and rather than gaining a step on the rest of the league, we’re quite possibly looking at loosing near 600k in league money and the euro money that would’ve come next season. That decision again stems from a lack of footballing vision/ direction.

I’ve never been a fan of him but Ricki Lambie was our best player yesterday . Showed more passion, desire and commitment than most - this is a guy that’s signed for the opposition showing more than numerous players who will be with us next season - that sums it up really. Our biggest and first problem is 433 with a midfield who can’t create and can’t run and can’t tackle with 4 players behind them that generally win their aerial battles and head it into a space where we are constantly out numbered. If we do get the ball on the deck at the back our defence who aren’t great with the ball at their feet have no options in the midfield in front of them so lump it up the park simply to get rid of it. Our esteemed captain being a main culprit in that. Who is he kidding when he constantly drops narrow to hide behind the opponent so no one can pass the ball to him. We have a good enough squad with good enough players to do ok in this league ( mugabi , Cornelius, Slaterly , Tierney, Shaw) but Alexander time and time again refuses to play a formation that suits them and refuses to play the players that can play football , make a 10 yard forward pass and can run and get stuck in. As for Liam Donnelly - Forth Wanderers are looking for a utility player if you contact their match secretary.

My take on yesterday's debacle. No point in chewing over old fat (Donnelly, SOD etc) as I largely agree with it. GA is changing things that maybe don't need to be changed and not changing things that do. 4-3-3 with the squad he has largely built is not working - maybe it would work with different players. I quite get why we're shelling high balls at our striker and wingers but we don't have the players to do it. It was obvious, within the first 5 minutes yesterday, that Dundee's defence would gobble up high balls happily all day long and they did. The midfield, as is, has no pace at all and zero creativity. Time after time they failed to support our strikers, by not advancing up the pitch - maybe GA's instructions? When we did break down the middle or even down the flanks (not the wingers), we were so slow it allowed Dundee to funnell back and organise themselves. The strikers are just not linking up as they are playing far too far apart. Very frustrating to watch our only striker spend so much time wide on the left wing. The subs did make a difference late on but by then it was far too late. Interesting that Dundee had as many shots on target as we did, despite them parking the bus. With Dundee fielding a young rookie keeper I would have thought we'd pepper him with crosses and shots, but no. Certainly Dundee's defence was pretty solid. They looked the hungrier team and worked far harder than us for a good part of the game. It was only in the closing stages that we looked like doing anything, as they tired. Two other observations. The pitch isn't looking as good as it has in the past - bare patches and uneven. The POD stand side linesman was at a totally different game from me. Some of the decisions he failed to indicate on incidents right in front of him were ludicrous.

I guess the answer there is don’t give our own players dogs abuse. Can anyone name a single time that supporters abusing their own players has actually improved things ? All that happens is they go into hiding or down tools. GA needs to pick a starting 11 and baring injuries stick with it, the constant chopping and changing never bring success.

Sorry, but no offer. They were all shite today.

He doesn’t know his arse from his elbow.

What I like about Donnelly is that he is one of very few who will take the ball to feet, look up and try to play a pass. Unfortunately, there is very little movement in the side, which makes it difficult to pick a pass so, many passes are misplaced. On the down side, his pace lets him down badly. As for his interaction with the fans today; well it wasn't very clever.

I kinda left the game thinking at least we got a point which isn't really what you want to be saying to yourself after a home game against Dundee. If we had won I probably wouldn't even be thinking about the game. BUT I've been watching Motherwell for 50 odd years now and I can't remember ever looking for excuses not to go to a game but the current tactics are severely testing my resolve (and my neck muscles). Don't think it's just a Motherwell thing tbh as most teams are serving up the same kind of dross in their own style but the standard of football in general in the SPL is absolutely dire at the moment.

He's not a midfielder but a defender. A square peg in a round hole.

Once again, the football on show was very difficult to watch. There is no doubt that our style of football does not make for an entertaining Saturday afternoon, even if we were getting results. Pair the performances with the current run of results and it becomes very hard to take. However, booing misplaced passes, booing the team off at half-time, booing them off at full-time and having a go at individual players will do nothing to build confidence on the pitch. Is it any wonder that some players hide or won't try a pass? The atmosphere at Fir Park is becoming quite toxic. It is time to be supporters in every sense of the word by supporting and encouraging each and every one of the players on the pitch. Let's get right behind them and help dig them out of this rut. Co e on ye Well!!!

Why do people care what Alexander says in post match interviews, surely we all know it's just a couple of minutes to protect the players and try and keep morale high. The seethe that comes after every interview is very strange.

The worst team in the league that are still 10 points behind us, another couple of wins for us ( no feckin idea where they will come from) will see us 4th or 5th and in the Euro places, no need for panic just yet, so away and wring your pants out.

Is it just me but surely a midfield of slattery shaw and Cornelius can’t be any worse than the current fare

A bit like Alexander, I’m going nowhere. Celtic or Rangers are still available for you, lots of wins.

Alexander has to go tonight, don’t care if he recently got a new contract.

5 points out of 30 Alexander’s time is up shocking football and pish poor signings . He can fuck off and take his shite players wae him hope never to see Goss Slattery Donnelly Odonnel KVV Woolery in a Motherwell strip ever again

The lengths that every team has gone to to avoid success this year is astonishing. No one wants to win the league, no one wants Europe, and no one wants to stay up. The cup final this year is going to penalties and will eventually be decided on a coin toss. Sent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk

I take it this is going to be the start of the Alexander out chat

Thank God we had Tony Watt from August to December. He dug us out of many holes in that time and helped us paper over many cracks.