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With all due respect that's pish, SK had KVV and Spittal contributing 30 goals between them, MW has Armstrong, Watt or Ebiye so hardly surprising we struggle to score goals and therefore win games As for MW having Multiple chances to secure top 6, that would be 2 maybe 3 games out of the 6 or 7 he's been in charge, aye OK then. Some of the posters on here need a reality check at times, does anyone really think we would be any better off after 32 games if SK had stayed, not a chance we would be at least 6 points worse off.

With all due respect I think this is a load of rubbish. Hammell's team was worse and in a much worse position, relegation very much on the cards, and Kettlewell came in and not only turned it round but went on a great run. Wimmer has had multiple chances to secure a Top 6 position and not done it. Of course he needs time to mould his own team and no one is saying he won't do a job in the long run but that doesn't mean that he's doing as well as he should be. I alluded to it before but I'll just say it out loud now, the two key players in that squad are Lennon Miller and Tawanda Maswanhise, and so far he's show he doesn't recognise that or how to utilise either player effectively. To me that's a bit concerning. Managers that try to impose their own style over the strengths of a squad usually either have to concede and change or fail.

Perhaps it’s the players who are the problem…

Wimmer can only pish with the cock he’s got, which I am sure we can all agree is useless, so the talk of him being inadequate and/or emptied this early in his tenure is absurd.

Even when we beat Rangers and Dundee, Casey gave away both the goals we conceded. As I've said before, I understand why people like Casey for his energy and disruptive nature in the oppositions' box. As a defender, though, he's constantly out of position, and struggles to pass the ball to his own team members. A liability, especially when he's paired up with Blaney - something like 3 clean sheets playing together in the league. There comes a point when the mentality of a defence is just broken and they are incapable of performing at the required level. For me, it was obvious we had passed that point last season. Some of our central defenders may go on and perform better elsewhere, but I honestly can't think of any combination of the current crop that I'd look at before a game and think "clean sheet".

Clear the lot and try and get money for the likes Slattery and the others still in contract , although I doubt we would get anything for SOD.

I understand why people are unhappy. I went to my first away game in decades and had to watch that Aberdeen shit show. But I'm old enough to remember standing on the terraces at Fir Park in the winter with us getting battered off Morton. I don't think we are a shite team. I think we've just had lots of injuries this year and other things that have conspired against us. And if we do go down - fuck it. I'll support Motherwell till the end I honestly do hope Wimmer turns it around but if he doesn't it is what it is. I also don't think our players don't care about the club.

I think we need to put Maswanhise up front with Armstrong and press higher up the field. Having said that I don’t know if hearts have any players with speed that could hurt us on the break or with balls over the top. of course Maswanhise is a gamble. We’d just have to hope we get the “good” Maswanhise

Some fans talk some amount of rubbish,hearts would take it easier on us 😂,this is a piss poor hearts team that were more than capable of beating despite the form were in.theres nothing to fear going Into this game and if we win and make it into the top 6 then great,if the other result doesn't go our way and we win anyway then it will be an equally important three points.

It was quite literally the only outcome that gave us even the faintest chance of making the top six, and somehow you think that’s the worst possible result we could have got? Completely mad.

Likewise, fair enough. I think we were typing at the same time.

It is far too simplistic to say this. You were possibly Kettlewell's most vocal critic and you would have slaughtered him for the last three performances. This squad of players has internationals and the best young player in Scotland in it. It has accumulated 38 points, one shy of Hearts. Is their squad shite too? Only three weeks ago this same squad of players put in a good performance against Dundee and an excellent performance against Rangers. As it stands, Kettlewell had a more impressive start than Wimmer has had. His critics' will say that Van Veen single handedly saved the day but he played KVV to his strengths and reaped the results. I agree that it is absurd to talk about Wimmer being inadequate. I would tend to champion the cause of managers to a fault. I am pleased to read that you are pragmatic in your approach to Wimmer and I hope you continue to give him your patience but the last three performances go beyond the Kettlewell effect. The picture is always way more complicated than that.

The best way to keep us away from the playoffs is to fulfill the silly wee dream and secure a top 6 finish.

It has surprised me a little how honest Wimmer has been about his lack of knowledge of the Scottish game. That is fine if he has an astute footballing brain that can quickly assess the strengths of his own team and the weaknesses of the opponent. There is little sign in the last few games that this is the case. I remember when Baraclough was appointed a Motherwell official commented on how thoroughly prepared he was for interview. He had been meticulous in his preparation. I think an example had been given about him having extensive files on potential signings, one of them being Louis Moult. I am not sure that Managers in the Scottish League are the most sophisticated in world football but they do seem to be street wise and adept at nullifying threat. If Wimmer was able to use an element of surprise in his first few games, that particular honeymoon will be past already. I would like to think that a German manager working at a relatively high level in the past would have that astute footballing brain but we have not seen it in the last three games. The players are clearly running low on confidence. The new manager bounce gave them a lift and we saw in glimpses what they are capable of. Wimmer is going to have to recapture that confidence from the players if the season is going to end with a flourish.

Wimmer isn't going to be fired. He's not even had a window. However I've not been that impressed with what I've seen so far. As I said when he was appointed he doesn't know the league or the players and I think that's show rather glaringly so far. He's got a lot to learn and I think he's going to have to adapt his own views on the game to suit a Scottish context better. Creatively, I think we've gone backwards, the two key players in the squad he's not utilised properly, we've not keep a clean sheet since he arrived and our away form is absolutely abysmal. This Hearts match is huge. Win and at the very least we go to 41 points, a historically safe number, and potentially a Top 6 place. Lose and all the momentum goes the other way. I don't really think we are any worse than most of the league, the table shows that, but form and confidence are huge at this stage of the season and I do think the situation with Kettlewell leaving has adversally effected the players morale and if we end up in the Bottom 6 I think a lot of the signs are pointing the wrong way.

Some of you are living in cloud cuckoo land.