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Aye , cheers for the reply that's about a summary of my thoughts too . But really you are on a hiding to nothing being the Well manager as its inevitable with financial constraints, support numbers and location as close to Glasgow, that eventually they run out of ideas , having to sell the best players doesn't help and results drop off .Then they leave . Terry Butcher installed great team spirit then went off to the sun . Tommy McLean was astute but not very personable. Craig Brown was a very good manager also proving experience really does count. I liked him , he left for a better job , the way he did it was poor tho. Not too many Well managers do leave to a better job. They just sort of fade away and have to leave. I would think it will be about a three to four year life span for a manager that does relatively well .

Not really but hey ho it got you a laugh. And as weeyin says if Miller is as highly rated as we are led to believe why would a top club not be interested in him as a future prospect.

I rated Stuart McCall up to a point as he oversaw an incredible league performance with us. Unfortunately his cup records seriously sullied that and some of the cup defeats/exits during his time were absolutely dreadful. I also thought Mark McGhee did an excellent job in his first season of his first spell but ruined any good will with his appalling attitude towards the club during his second season and he did little to change that during his second stint. Butcher took us through a very difficult period and gave us some great times but probably stayed on a year too long and the same could be said for Robinson. Craig Brown was excellent for us imo. The only managers whom I have genuinely thought were dreadful for us were Harri Kampman, Maurice Malpas, the aforementioned Ian Baraclough (playoff aside) and McGhee second time around. Hope that answers your question.

Hook , line , and sinker .

Baraclough wasn't great but he did a lot better than McCall that season. I am a huge fan of McCall and what he achieved with us, but he was also the man who almost got us relegated. (And kudos to him for stepping away when he realised it had stopped working). McCall left us in a precarious state by only managing 3 wins and a total of 10 points the first half of that season. Baraclough got 7 points in his first 3 games and 26 in the second half of the season. As always, though, people often forget about the players and there's no doubt they should also share a huge part of the blame for putting us in that situation.

Personal view is he's a very good manager, think he's been there for about a decade. I'd love us to appoint someone who can help us over a long period of time. Fair play to Dundee if they can land someone of his calibre.

Champions League shouldn't even be a league. That was another protectonist demand from the wealthy clubs who didn't want the risk of being knocked out in an early round of a proper cup competition. And then they complain about too many games in a season before jetting off to Thailand to play a few more.

Just goes to show that on a level financial basis the old firm are no better than any other team. Which also goes for every other league in the world. The more money you have the better your chance of success. So All this “we are better than you” shite, really translates to “we have more money than you” and i do believe this is exactly what the old firm say with regards to European competitions. However, UEFA and FIFA, continue to support actions to make the rich teams richer and the “poor” teams poorer thereby actively reducing competitiveness and ability for poor teams to attain enough financial opportunity to reach a competitive level. Champions league should be only champion from each country with an unseeded draw. Likewise Europa league should be like old cup winners cup and then have conference league for other teams.

There's a few english managers that could be good, including Buckingham, but there's also a bunch of managerial vacancies in the EFL that they're all linked with, so we may have to see how that shakes out. Did Ian Evatt apply last time, or was his name just thrown out by someone on here? Saw an article with John Terry lamenting about his unsuccessful efforts to secure a manager job, maybe he could do a job here? He's obviously remembered fondly for his cup winning exploits with us in '91.

Miller to PSG?