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But surely you would accept that our style of play means any gk who plays for us will potentially make the same error. I accept it’s a bad mistake but I am not sure what is achieved by hounding him out. like I said earlier he on numerous occasions broke their press with his passes to open up the play.

This was never going to be instant success though. The manager keeps going on about the learning process here. Mistakes will be made. We just have to accept this. I feel a lot on here are being way too critical of the team, you need to look at the bigger picture.

All this chat of get Ward out is so frustrating to read. I would be interested to see how many passes he made in his box while Celtic pushed up to around our 18 yard line, I would guess a fair few. He is being asked to play like this by his manager and is integral to the style of play we now embrace. As soon as he plays it through their press we find gaps and this has been evident in most games this season. Issue is the more you play that move the more chance there is of a mistake happening, which the manager pointed out in his interview. I don’t think Ox can play this way and I would be he would make more mistakes than Ward. It’s the nature of the position that a mistake can lead to a goal, but I don’t think it’s all wards fault. Put it this way if let’s say Welsh made a mistake that led to a goal would we all be jumping on wanting him out the door?

Have they not digitised the autograph books yet .🤣

I downloaded the Hampden Ticket App last week so a mate could send me tickets for the next two Scotland home games. He bought the tickets and then was able to send them to me via his App. Appears to have worked ok as both tickets now show when I open my App. All he needed was the E-Mail I used when setting up the App after download. He said it was easy enough but it is yet another complication fans could do without. It would help if MFC could explain to folk how a Group can make sure they get tickets together and if each person needs their digital ticket on their phone. And can confirm that tickets can be transferred to others in the group once purchased.

We don't really have to say its acceptable for the keeper passing the ball straight to an opposition player in our own box, for him to score and take all three points. It's basic stuff in his job description , probably rule no2 on what not to do in the goalkeeping manual. He's running out of chances.

That for me is really all that we are missing. If we get results against Livingston and Falkirk we are well set up for the season but we just cannot give either of those sides the goalkeeping freebies we've given Hearts, Kilmarnock and Celtic. We really should be sitting top of the league and that's a testament to how well we've played but shooting ourselves in the foot.

Hopefully yesterday will be a learning curve that there will be times when the ball needs to be kicked long or booted into the stand and we regroup from there.

The chances of the latter giving Celtic the equaliser compared to the former is 5% against 95%. Its just a bad judgement call no matter how its dressed up.

Yeah, the takeaway is 2 fold. 1: Ward to atune his decision making in such situations. 2: Players to be alert to it, communicate and try and find space. Its weird, but we want teams to be encouraged to press us high and commit men as if we get through the line, they are then exposed. The way to frustrate us is probably to sit in and force us to play in front of them. Frustrating and what ifs so far, but we have been on top or at least well in the fight every game this season. We may be making mistakes, but were also giving ourselves a chance.

I'm with you on this mate and feel we will learn as most teams will start doing same. I.e putting 5 players up on us at goal kicks. JBA will see this and will develop a play out that will bypass these 5. There must be room elsewhere on pitch if they have 5 to mark our 2cdms and 2 cbs so that will be worked out what to do if this happens again. There is always solutions and I am sure we will find them. As others have said 1st time in years we have gave them a right game and only our lack of subs and 1 bad decision cost us. We are a match for anyone just now and it is great to see. Ps I would keep faith with ward as there is no way ox would give us extra man in playing out from back.

The press jumped on the Kettlewell ‘story’ because false headlines shift papers, while the truth about Martin doesn’t suit their agenda.

You're spot on. Sevco fans are more important than than Martin though, whilst Kettlewell is more important than Well fans (in the eyes of the media).

Kettlewell alleged abuse seems light compared to the awful abuse and thuggery from sevco fans. They tried to stop the bus leaving and Martin needed police escort to leave. If that was well that behaviour would be demonised.

If the pass hadn’t gone astray and got to the intended Motherwell player then Ward would have taken out 5 of the Celtic outfield players with one pass, leaving plenty of room for out midfield and strikes to exploit. Yes it’s risk and reward football which when it works is beautiful but when it goes wrong, like today, horrendous. I’m still a believer in it so won’t get too upset about it. Celtic got the breaks today, FFS their penalty came from a McGregor mis-hit shot that bounced up off the ground. It's all ifs, buts and maybes but they definitely got the luck today.

Just watching Sportscene. First half the maswanhise shot from the tight angle. Keeper saves it then think it’s Carter Vickers simply plays it back to him and Schmeichel catches it. Wtf?? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Sorry but I disagree. Firstly, Id seperate the previous handling errors from this one as they are not the same type of mistake. If the manager tries to drum into you in training that you dont just hoof it and goes on at lengths to show why doing so was why we lost against Hearts, then you can understand why Ward was reluctant to put the laces through it today. Its still a bad decision. He should hoof it. But this is a team having to learn an entirely new way of playing. We all feared that this was the type of goal we would conceed, so no surprise that it has happened, other than its taken this long. The important thing is whether he/we learn from this and can avoid doing the same again.

Our system doesnt work that way. We need the keeper to step up and be an extra player at the back to create the space to play out. If Jens is watching Ox in training he will know whether rhe is capable of that or not. Id wager thats why he supported Ward so strongly after the repeated mistakes. Id also wager he will do the same again after this one.......

Sorry but WTF? What did those three do today that merited that? Gordon had a good game today, made some crucial interceptions and a few good forward passes. SOD’s being that good this season so far that some folk were wondering why he’d been dropped. McGinn’s just back from injury and played well today. Not one of them were at fault for the goals conceded today so why single them out? ward made 1 horrible pass that gave them a goal and a few saves that kept us in the game before and after it. Yes it pisses me off that we didn’t get anything from the game but I’m not going to go off on one about the keeper never mind players who did feck all wrong today.

You really are an arsehole, have a look at yourself ffs🤦‍♂️

Gate money yes. Programme & catering sales no.