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From the Celtic end. Hopefully not accurate. £2.75m plus £250 k in add ons. ....eventually. Two players coming our way on loan. Ewan Henderson and Scott Robertson. Both midfielders apparently . I’ve never heard of them. And no mention of a sell on fee.

I actually think it was correct to disallow the goal because of where Seedorf was positioned. Otherwise football is a farce. But nobody (other than Hanlon funnily enough) has homed in on the fact that a defender DELIBERATELY played the ball. Have a look at the Law for offside which was amended a few years ago. A defender DELIBERATELY playing at the ball can result in a player in an offside position being deemed onside. So if Seedorf had touched the ball there is a strong case that it should have stood. Most referees ignore that ruling but it does exist. Just ask Man City who went out of the Champions League because of it three years ago. Not saying it is sensible but it is a factor and it clouds the issue. They have mucked about with the offside rule so much that it is now almost unworkable. I think that is why Hanlon went to great lengths to emphasise that he only played at the ball because Seedorf was behind him. But really, if we lost a goal in those circumstances every Motherwell fan would be going nuts.

To play right back.

Streaming but no sound. Watching players warming up.

Can someone post when the stream starts so folk know if they should be seeing something other than the countdown timer.

Maybe a permanent deal to be done if Kipre sold soon or in January and we can fund it from our cut of that. Would not surprise me if that was the case.

Game was cancelled according to Rangers. Believe it or not, a delay in CoVid results meant it was called off.

A Rangers pal based in Wales watched all their away games last season using a VPN as an "Overseas " subscriber to Rangers TV , including at the grounds you mention. Only their Europa League games were not shown as BT had the rights. So they might block Motherwell TV but they allow access to the OF. Maybe it's about the cost and those clubs charge too much to justify Motherwell TV showing it.

OF fans overseas have Rangers and Celtic TV. So I would think that is a limited market for Livi. And if the game is live on Sky in the UK then PPV will not be allowed here. So no meaningful market anywhere for Livi involving Celtic or Rangers. Don't know about Celtic, but Rangers fans overseas can pay Rangers TV £7.99 to watch individual games if they don't take out a full subscription. And here as well if they use a VPN..... or £9,99 for a Now Sports day pass. No way will they pay £20. As per usual it is the fans of us diddy clubs that are being fleeced. I hope fans of all clubs refuse to pay the £20.

I would think all OF away games will be on Sky. That's usually what happens anyway. So no PPV will be allowed. Livi are just ripping off fans of teams such as Motherwell. Same as they have done every game since being promoted. Given no concessions, seems wrong that many folk would pay more to watch the game online than they did when attending last year.

Season Ticket holders also get to see 19 home games at Fir Park when fans allowed in . So you could end up with 38 games. 19 Streamed and 19 Live next season. As you say it is not a bad deal.

I meant Livi are charging £20 for their home games. We are charging £12 for ours. Livi cashing in as usual.

PPV Streaming now allowed on a game to game basis. Told we are charging £12 and Livi £20. some things never change. League Matches home and away fans.

I thought each club was responsible for their own tests. So the Lab used is down to Motherwell. .....or St Mirren in that positive/negative nonsense. Some Clubs have even bought their own test equipment rather than relying on outside firms. . I’m not so sure Doncaster is guilty this time.

Very much so as far as Motherwell are concerned. All our results were back...if later than expected...prior to later kick off. So delaying the game was a wise move. Sensible given no spectators hanging around waiting. Unlike Hibs and County who postponed a game because no results received in time, Rangers are accused of pushing ahead with a game against Dundee Utd without test results for many players having been received. Totally against agreed procedures. Perhaps not a bad thing that procedures are being reinforced at this time rather than have cancellations/delays when the season kicks off for real. Downside is that tests have been upped to twice per week which has cost implications. It's up to each Club to arrange their own testing and to ensure results are received in time.

Has anybody heard anything from the Club or the Provider about the streaming issues last night? Would have thought they might have at least tried to reassure those that had issues. I know I’m not the only one who was able to sign in as expected, but was then disconnected as soon as the stream went live. Thereafter the sign in link was dead. Eventually after about 20 minutes of E-mailing back and forth I was sent a “for my use only” one off link to Premier Sports which worked fine. The issue was certainly at their end as I regularly stream sport without issue and today I can sign in on the official link as was the case up to kick off. . Hopefully the problem has been identified and future viewing will be fine. Otherwise this is going to prove a right frustration.

Oops wrong thread

Yep. Crashed just before 8pm. Not good

Now unable to sign in. Was fine yesterday and all today. Teething issues it seems as new advice to contact the help line put up 15 minutes ago.

8pm tonight.

Next to your name - season ticket number( on top right) you should have a drop down menu. From that go to Account Settings and a Password link appears. You can change it from there. At least that's how it worked for me.... A fellow novice.

How could he sign before today anyway if the transfer window just opened? Not out of contract so I thought we had to wait. I thought the same about O’Hara right enough.

I think the one off SPFL Broadcasting rules for this season do allow streaming to non season ticket holders but only with Sky approval. The SPFL recently updated their entire rules and regulations, to reflect last season‘s ending and the one hopefully about to kick off. The finer details are currently being discussed with Sky and the Clubs. For instance, does the game clash with another game being broadcast on Sky or is the actual game itself being broadcast? In those circumstances Sky are reluctant to allow non season ticket viewing as it might hurt their viewing figures. As an example I don’t think away fans will be able to view our game at County, except on the Sky platform. In my opinion that is fair given they are paying for the right to broadcast games. As a means of generating income it would be fantastic if streaming could be sold on a match to match basis, both to home and always fans. But a deal still has to be worked out. I think it will happen though. Surely common sense could apply. How about Sky receive a small percentage of any non season ticket streaming sold within the UK that clashes with their live broadcasts? I am sure Mr Doncaster will have matters in hand.

Or when we are 2nd and it’s all his fault we are not top.

So by that token did David Turnbull show a lack of ambition by choosing Celtic over Norwich? After all Celtic play in the same League as Motherwell and Turnbull was not guaranteed a start every week. A stepping stone to greater things was mentioned as a strong reason for choosing Celtic. More likelihood of development and a chance to learn from better players. I have a feeling he opted for Celtic to be closer to home more than anything else. But that’s only a thought and not based on anything definite. I’m not saying Hastie has shown anything like the consistency or talent of Turnbull, but by moving to Rangers he immediately increased his chances of winning silverware, increased his chances of playing against top European sides, increased his chances of a call up to the full Scotland side, got to work with a coaching team possessing a wealth of International and European experience , got to train and play with top International players, and got a hefty wage rise as well. Just like the situation Turnbull would have benefited from. It has not yet worked out as well as Jake had hoped but all is not lost. He may well be a better player than when he left us, both in a football sense and mentally. Time will tell. If he does well for us, who is to say he will not get another look in at Ibrox? Whatever, I’m sure that given his time over again, he would make the same decision. Commitment wise he was with us for 11 years, despite approaches from other Clubs during that time. Just like Turnbull and Jamie Semple. Unlike a good few other youngsters who opted to leave ....Leeds and Rangers being two beneficiaries. And Hastie chose to return to us despite interest from elsewhere. As for there being the same anger if he had gone to a Hearts or Aberdeen, I don’t recall there being such bitterness or talk of lack of ambition when Curtis Main departed for Aberdeen. And it could be argued Main contributed more in his time with us than Hastie did. And that he owed us for rescuing his career. Players get to the end of their Contracts and sometimes better offers come along from elsewhere. Players have decisions to make and we have to respect that the decision is theirs’ to make. Injury and the denial of the opportunity of progression and security might only be one game away. And if Rangers want to Loan us Greg Docherty and Jamie Murphy as well.......