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and guess who's the ref for the game against hamilton? club needs to grow a set and object to o'reilly's appointment.

if the undersoil heating is broken use the big balloon that we had to cover the pitch surely?

See Hamilton's game is off again because of a frozen pitch. It seems certain teams are making no attempt to get their games on, and nothing is being said by the authorities. Utd have alot of injuries and apparently cant get a game on, yet their neighbours across the road can? So where is the outcry from the media?

How can the SFA source talk about integrity when he reveals confidential information regarding the incident to a national rag? Why is the referee not being suspended pending investigations? Without his card, there is no incident. Why is the players union not speaking out in support of one of their members? The referees were quick to close ranks when the referees integrity was questioned. If the bookie feels a fraud has taken place, why is the police not involved at this stage? If they suspend the player at this stage his career is finnished, as mud sticks. How does the SFA know that another player was not involved? Any other day Craigan could have walked for a couple of assualts on templeton. The handling of this incident by all parties is totally unprofessional and to be honest pathetic.

that narrows it down then to about 1200 possibles. Is the name on the above poll?

whoever is going to be appointed, i hope we get a heads up, so we can put a few bob on at the bookies, just so we all can get properly compensated for the slagging our club has got over the last few days

it would appear that some opposition fans reckon we've bottled it.

suppose with the tweaking of the report, the appeal would have failed. However, £1k loss to ensure he plays against Aberdeen surely would have been worth it. I blame wee twat at aberdeen. Im sure he's pulled a few strings to weaken us ahead of their game.

would also add that a player cant gesture to a ref, but a player can gesture to fans, which might cause trouble. Only way the donkey Kyle was ever going to score against us.

given the amount that bookie make, £5500 payout is peanuts. Not like the tv to stir it up by implying that all bets were from same area.

if you google O'Reilly, it would seem that all fans at all clubs have stated he's an appalling referee. Which beggs the question why he continues to be allowed to officiate a top league game, especially on live tv.

his first booking was deserved. deliberate trip. Does not matter if it's first foul or not. Stupid from Jennings, but as others have said, theyre was easier ways to get sent off than tapping a ref on the arm.

the argument about results over performances beckons. Given the amount of points we've got this season, i would say the tactics have been ok. But if you play the same team at least 3 times a season then off course those tactics aint going to work every time. Our resources has probably dictated a lack of Plan B. We don't have the personnel to change.

has the ref got relatives down in Liverpool? said it last night, but Jennings will be made an example off. All sort of things will be thrown at him.

Your right about habit. I stopped buying a season ticket the season McLeish took over. At that time i felt the fun, excitement and quality on show at Fir Park had gone, and that i was better spending my money on my family. I did promise myself i would try to go to at least a few games. Initially, i managed that and then gradually i was lucky if i saw them twice a season, and eventually stopped all together. It's amazing how seasons pass by and you know what i lost all interest and did not miss it one bit. Only in recent seasons i rekindled the interest due to the original steelmen site and the passion the posters showed, but even then i picked which game i would attend. Now, i am probably back at the point where if i can go, i don't go and you know what i don't feel guilty about it. Motherwell FC and SPL/SFA have a duty to sell their product to me. But given recent events, and attitude shown be those in charge of game and i include the police and stewards, especially towards fans, i can't be bothered anymore. It's only a game, and there are plenty of other things i could do with my time. Sure, Motherwell FC will suffer, but they by association have contributed to the shambles that is Scottish Football. Self preservation will stop any recovery, so we may as well, not bother trying to be positive. Doom and gloom, perhaps, but can anyone else name a entertainment product where the punters continue to attend, given the total lack of quality, integrity, excitement and fun?

that daft thing is, is it not the same ref who sits down and makes the decision on the appeal? I can see Jennings being made an example off. They could not possibly do it against the old firm, but a wee diddy team........

no i do get your point, i just feel that those punters that have not been scunnered to the extent that you say, could finally throw in the towel if say McPherson was appointed.

quite possibly? BBC is fast becomming like the scum bag other media outlets.

Boyle is perhaps one wrong managerial appointment away from knocking hundreds off future Fir Park attendances for ever more.

tonight was the probably the first time, i've not had to witness the long ball football from us. We tried to pass, and failed. Hearts punted upto the big man, and hey presto they win. Hearts tonight looked like a Dundee Utd team under Levein. That same look that Levein wants for scotland.

no suprise there! tweaking of report already in motion. Perhaps Jennings should come out and do a Hooper.

the only way scottish football is going to be saved and be competitive and worth watching, will be the season when the old firm aint in the league.

lasley, if only for the goal.

the thing is they are making an erse of even easy decisions, like blocking a quick free kick, which in any other game i've seen is a booking to the player doing it. Much like Thompson, not sending off or booking the Hamilton player for denying a goal scoring opportunity. Player a trips someone and is booked, player B trips someone and nothing! No consistancy. The best refs in the world talk to players. Just goes to show that all this trying to keep in with refs and not criticising them by our club, has really helped not!

the thing is you might think that way, but im sure many probably already dont go for that reason, as well as sitting in the freezing cold! Our stadium was empty tonight for two top six teams in the top league.