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That is another great bit of PR given the debt they have accrued during this time of "big transfer fees" for their youngsters. Even after Mackay Steven went, weren't they in debt to the tune of 3 million or so? So the amount they are investing isn't generating sufficient return.

Dundee Utd do great PR on their "youngsters" but if you look at their track record a lot of them were blooded at other clubs. Mackay-Steven was at Liverpool (and then Airdrie Utd), Craig Conway at Ayr Utd., Robertson at Celtic and then Queens Park. Goodwillie is about the only one that came through the ranks and made it all the way to Aberdeen.

Aye, and there's no such thing as an Orange Walk, Orangemen and Orange Lodges - but we all know what they are too.

Aye, I don't think we ever managed to adequately replace Nicky Law. McCall made a few duff signings, but Law was a gem.

If I had to choose, I'd actually be looking for a creative midfielder purely because it's easier to slot a defender into the defensive midfielder role if required.

A keeper, maybe?

They do, but the TV ratings are pretty low.

We all hit an age where the only thing guaranteed to fit every year is the club tie.

Man Travels 800 Miles on Summer Holiday. Picutres at 10 (and 11, and 12 and for the next 25 years).

I see Man City are sniffing around James McCarthy. If that deal goes through I imagine Accies might have another wee windfall to help keep them further up the table.

If it was Lasley, he'd probably concede another pen.

Aye, he does sound more like an old Jewish comedian than an African footballer.

Perhaps, but I think it's a stretch to say he'll be the difference between struggling at the bottom to pushing for the top 6.

I like Skippy, but I don't think he's that influential - especially as our biggest failings tend to be in defence.

Trying out a few things and just trying to get everyone some game time I would think.

Max Gradel played for Leeds the same time as Grella. So it was pretty close. He also played for Leeds against us the pre-season a few years ago.

There hasn't been silence though. Bara was asked a few times about Marv and Hammell's omissions, and he said that they felt some reaction to their workouts and he wasn't going to risk any issues by playing them in a bounce game. It's all about being fit for the start of the season, not a friendly.

Bara keeps saying it's precautionary. Won't risk playing anyone that is feeling any tightness or pain after training.

Good to see the pre-season moans getting an outing. As well as eliminating the 12 quid entry price issue, playing training games behind closed doors would also reduce the panic, and complaining and misery on here. We have had some truly mince-worthy seasons on the back of a good pre-season and vice-versa. As long as we get through them injury free and let the new boys settle in, the results are pretty meaningless. Especially when there are so many subs and the bosses are playing with ideas and formations.

Thomas on for Hammell.

You said you wouldn't bet on any of them. I'll take the other side of the bet i.e. at least one of them. What odds are you laying?

I wouldn't bet on Skippy for more than 5 goals given his strike rate last season. However, I'd take the bet that says at least one of the four others scores more than 5.

I think it would be great signing, but I don't think it will make or break our season. More interested in strengthening our midfield right now. Of course, we could slot Skippy into that advanced role. With four first team strikers on the books now, it's less of a priority.

12 quid is outrageous for a training exercise. Not that anyone has to go, of course, but be as well going back to closed door games.

Aye, I'd defend McCall for a few of his signings that didn't work out, but Twardzik did seem a lazy one. The new goal keeping coach should hopefully a some good ideas of who we can bring in.