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Who said we are not a non-charitable institution though? I'm sure that in terms of HMRC that the club has a "Sporting and Recreational activity/Charity" status.
The fact that there was all this debate about adding (or not adding) the extra VAT increase to ticket prices suggests we do not operate as a VAT exempt charity.
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Take a look here, for example, about the Dutch approach to youth football and see how many times the word "winning" is used.
Of course, winning is a side effect of playing the right way, but every slide in that presentation is about developing the correct techniques and using them in 'realistic match situations'. That is a subtle, but important, difference to being match-result oriented.
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I would not have though so. We entered the ground using our season tickets legally which we'd paid for (including giving £70 to the Treasury in the form of VAT). If we make a donation then surely thats up to us. It was not handed over in return for any purchase or service.
I imagine HMRC would treat it the same way as any other income of a non-charitable institution. But could be wrong.
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Regarding results not being important, well imho they are.
In countries with much more advanced youth development than Scotland, they tend not to be - even at this age.
It's no coincidence that Scottish youth teams often compete well against their peers, but never match up to them at Senior level. One of the reasons is that too much emphasis is put on results. So while our competition is still developing long term skills, we are more focused on winning games.
Of course, there needs to be some attention paid to that, but not at the expense of being able to, say, control a ball with both feet.
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I remember when it used to be men that stood beside me in The Shed. They never looked for thanks (or expected apologies if the team under performed).
The whole world's gone soft, I tell ye.
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Joe Wark the Legend and I just walked into the ticket office and handed over our donations and asked for them to be treated as such to ensure no VAT was paid. They were gratefully received, we were thanked and then we left for the Cooper.
I'll admit I'm out of touch with UK laws these days, but that not illegal? Do you not have to be a registered charity to avoid VAT?
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I bought a brick.
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Lee Erwin was on the fringes of the first team before his injury and might have been a good option to freshen things up (if only from the bench).
And I say that as a Higgy fan.
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Sounds like the same level of critical thinking from the "we were voted out of the SPL" crowd.
I can't see it myself, and even if it was true, why would the board be telling friends of Sevco fans before telling Well Society members?
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Everyone.is pretty much in agreement about what is going wrong and why it isn't working.
So why can't the manager see it?
Everyone can't even agree if Higdon is a decent player or absolute mince.
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I can appreciate what the big man does and I also understand where he is lacking, ideally we would have a guy like big Lucas or Andy Carroll, but we don't and we probably never will
Higdon has scored more goals this season than Andy Carroll has scored in his last 61 games.
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I'm a fan of Higgy, but not so blind as to understand some of the criticisms leveled at him. He is definitely not blessed with pace or jumping ability.
From his overhead kick against Hibs to the volley that scraped the post last week, however, I don't think his touch is open to question. In fact, from a pure footballing perspective, I think he is one of our more talented players.
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I think the reaction of Leanne Dempster was not what I would have liked. An apology and affirmation to do better next time is what I would have expected from any business in that situation. Instead we get told that we don't understand complicated things and not to complain. Many of the fans have complicated technical jobs and understand what it takes to carry out logistical tasks equalling (and sometimes far in excess of) what Motherwell need to do. (And as my mate put it, "What was the difference from the full time whistle except handing out vouchers?")
I take it your mate isn't one of the fans with a complicated job.
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We have five games to play this month, and its not unrealistic that we could end up with 0, 15 or any number in between.
I have a tenner that says we don't end up with 14.
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I was amazed to see Utd managed a point today as when I last checked they were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go!
I was hoping they would be comprehensively beaten thus depletwing their confidence for Wednesday.....
Shows that Celtic aren't that invincible. Except againt us!
Would take a point to be honest. Provided we then beat Dundee of course. Anything less than 3 points from.the next 2 games would be a really poor haul.
Utd. seem to have the style of game that matches up well with Celtic, but I was surprised Celtic let that 2 goal lead slip.
Think we have a decent chance of 3 points in this game, but like others on here, 1pt plus 3 against Dundee would make for a good week's work.
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Drawing Sevco would almost certainly mean an early exit, as I can’t see us ever beating that mob again (home or away). Sadly, they could field a team of under 12s and they would still hump us.
This. Plus, for me, even if we did beat them at home, it wouldn't make up for the last defeat. That was a unique set of circumstances where stuffing them would have been particularly sweet.
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Few things stood out for me on the highlights.
Higgy's volley was great technique and would have made for a cracking goal.
Likewise for Law's goal - controlled with his left footed and dinking it over the keeper with his right. Nice.
Goal nets - never understood why some places have them so tight the ball bounces back out after you score. Let it nestle!
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Highlights of the game: http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos...-motherwell-3/
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both of those games were utterly baltic.
the st johnstone game must have been about minus 10.
St. Johnstone games always seem to be baltic. I have memories of Shuggie Sproat having a mini snowball fight with some fans at one game, and I thought I was going to catch hypothermia the first time I went to their new stadium.
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Spot on, Butcher is a man i respect hates losing and loves winning and he shows both emotions publicly, unlike McCall who tends to praise the other team
I don't hold much with the lack of emotion thing. Some of the greatest managers and coaches across all sports never show anything (Bill Belichick at the New England Patriots being a classic example).
And while I have great appreciation for what Butcher did as a manager when he took over, I also remember seeing some of our worst performances under his watch. Let's not pretend he took our squad and turned them into a bunch of table-topping winners. We finished something like 12th-6th-6th-8th when he was the boss and I'm not even going to mention the CIS Cup Final.
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I think some fans have started to take top 3 or 4 + Europe + Decent Cup Run for granted.
Outside Celtic (to coin a phrase) the SPL is incredibly tight and with teams playing more youngsters, the results are very unpredictable.
We are definitely in a trough right now. We were in one last season when people hit the panic button and then we beat Dunfermline, Hearts and Hibs in a week. Then the panic button was hit again when people were convinced Dundee Utd. would take 3rd place away from us.
Like others, I think the sale of Jennings has had a big impact on our midfield and we haven't been able to adjust.
However, having been through 43 seasons of watching this mob, I always start off with the ambition of finishing above relegation as some level of success! Top 6 is great, a cup final arguably better, but there will be some seasons where we are bottom 6.
Longer term, we need to expand our squad by a couple of more bodies, and get some of the youngsters continued first team experience. I was always expecting this season to be somewhat transitional and potentially less successful with the smaller budget and playing personnel, but we can still make top 6 with what we have and I wouldn't see that as a failure.
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Op prediction starting to look a fair assessment?
We'll have peaks and troughs every season. No need for a crystal ball to see that and it's not triggered by a goal here or there.
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Intrigued to see how we cope with Doyle and Griffiths,
About as well as we used to cope with Stokes and Riordan I expect! Our style has seemed to suit Hibs' strikers in the past few years, but fortunately their defence has suited ours.
Looking forward to a good game and us to sneak it 3 - 2.
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I'm not sure about current players or managers chipping as, when they move on, it could create a conflict of interest (however minor).
McCall, for example, would have almost certainly voted 'yes' to keeping Sevco in the SPL. If the Society was loaded up with current players, they might be more inclined to vote for self-interest than club interest.
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Partly, I'm sure, because Ruddy was a loan and Randolph is "one of ours".
Also, as excellent as Ruddy is, he was certainly prone to the odd howler - especially towards the end of his time with us.
It's been great to have both of them at Fir Park though. Wish we had managed to fill all the other positions with the same quality.