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I understand the risk attached to transfers and have no problem with that. But there should be a clear dividing line between the Society and the club when it comes to finances. If the club want to spend some money and the society lend it fine. As long as its paid back eventually. Otherwise how do we ensure long term sustainability? Some transfers will work, some wont. But overall the business model we operate should be discouraging some of the reckless spending we have seen on players during both Barraclough and McGhees tenure.

I take your point. However, the original purpose of the Society was not to be an endless revenue stream. It was to build a fund to ensure steady cashflow at times where funds were tight. My understanding was that funds would go to the club at certain times and be returned to the Society when available. If the club is run on a sustainable basis then the amount of money should grow rather than diminish. Its just not clear right now to me that this is still the case. If its not then the Society and the Club have to be clear about it. I certainly wont be putting any more money in if its not going to be paid back to the Society. Given how we've pissed money away in the transfer market in the last 2 years you would be mad to sign up to bankroll that. There has to be some accountability on the clubs part to run prudently.

Got my bookazine today. Had a quick flick through. Delighted with the quality. Very impressive. Looking forward to reading it. Well done folks!

Some well thought out posts bringing some balance to the debate. Im not a McGhee hater, and was willing to give him a chance despite the nature of his exit last time round. I thought he did well last season to turn us around and I guess I, like many others, expected him to build on that and for us to enjoy a relatively successful season. The fact that this hasnt happened and that the managers faults have been laid bare is probably the most exasperating thing for most fans. When that happens most supporters will revert to their default position on the manager. Ive no idea where we will finish this season. I think it will largely depend on whether Mark McGhee can play to his strengths and control the urges he has to overthink things. Playing our best players in their natural positions is a good start. Whether injuries and tactics will allow us to keep doing that is another matter. I agree that McGhee is probably as good a manager as we can attract at the moment. The Ross County game has bought him some time. Hopefully he will learn the lessons from the last few weeks and we can continue to play positive attacking football for the rest of the season. If he does, we will win more than we lose in this league. If he doesnt, he will be out the door sooner or later and we will be back to square 1.

He was only about 5th or 6th best player, but as you say, had a really good game. His best in quite some time. Benefited from being played through the middle right enough.....

Thanks for this. I think my concern, before putting any further money in, would be that the club doesnt become a bottomless pit. If the money given to the club by the society is never paid back, then where is the incentive to manage the finances wisely. Im not in favour of the Society just becoming another "income stream" as after a while it just becomes part of the operating structure. To me that leaves the club at risk if fans thereafter can no longer afford their direct debits.

Surely if the Society only has £20k currently in the bank it means that it has lent a significant sum to the club which will be returned to the pot when available? My understanding was that society funds were for interest free loans to the club for cash flow purposes as we dont have access to an overdraft?

Very difficult choice. Lucas was head and shoulders above everyone first half but unsurprisingly faded 2nd half as he ran out of steam. Lionel was great 2nd half but quiet first half. Cadden had his usual solid performance but feel he needs to back himself more when he is one one one with the opposing fullback. Went for McDonald for motm as he was involved in just about everything good we did today. He was an absolute nuisance to their defence from start to finish in the way Dougie Arnott used to be. Brilliant.

Nearly didnt go today. So glad I did. I wouldnt have believed it otherwise! As others have said, it shows the difference when the manager keeps it simple and plays everyone in their correct positions (bar Ainsworth who was outsanding) Moult and McDonald have a great understanding and with the support from Cadden and Lionel, County just couldnt live with us. Clay and Lucas kept it simple and retained possession well. Lucas played with his head up the whole game looking for a forward pass. What a difference. The defence did ok but there were still a couple of sticky moments from set pieces and backing of players encouraging shots from distance, so that lesson still hasnt been learned. The starting 11 deserves the chance to go again next week.

I dont disagree with that. But is sacrificing the midfield playing to our strengths or ignoring our weaknesses? The centre of midfield has been an issue for us for some time now.

We need to stop conceding the midfield to our opponents. If they are going to play 5 in there lets match them up and make sure our guys win their individual battles.

Cadden for me. Was the only one who maintained a decent level of performance over the 90 minutes.

I dont need to post anything tonight. Exactly this.

Lots of good performances on Saturday. Thought Clay did well, takes a lot of pressure off of Lasley, Cadden was outstanding. There is only one choice for MoM though. 4 goals, should have had a 5th, movement and link up play absolutely outstanding. Louis, welcome back. You've been missed!

No brainer. Craig Samson. Couldve easy been 10 otherwise.

I think there were a lot of things wrong tonight. Too defensive from the off. Invited them on top of us and couldnt get up the park. I think we missed McHugh. He and Clay looked a good pairing together. Much as I love Las he was way off the pace tonight and I just dont think he has it anymore at that level. Too many individual errors defensively. All that said and done, Celtic have much better players than we have and on that form I dont think it would have mattered what we did they would have had too much for us. Sammie saved us from an absolute hiding.

Aye the odds have fair come in overight. Bet365 in to 12/1 from 20/1 Skybet in to 10/1 from 18/1 Looks like a few Dossers have taken advantage of the silly prices. I dont really expect us to win. But those odds still look generous. Here's hoping the bookies will be proved wrong tonight.

I see we are 20/1 on Bet365 to win in 90 mins. I know our record there is shite but thats an outrageous price. Obviously trying to entice me into jinxing our chances!

The delay in Moults op was supposedly due to a waiting list at the hospital so not sure how the LC fixtures can be blamed for the timing.

Im not Chalmers biggest fan and Im not sure that he has what it takes to have a future at the club, but I thought he did okay when he came on yesterday. He clearly looks more comfortable in midfield than at fullback. I suppose thats all relative to his previous poor performances.

Lots of good performances. Thought Cadden was excellent particularly in first half. McHugh and Clay looked pretty good together too. Went for Heneghan though. He looks better and better every game.

Made it more difficult than it needed to be but a good 3 points in the end. Thought we were very comfortable first half and more than deserved to be in front at half time. The goal was a lovely piece of play and a nice finish from Lionel who had his best game in a long time. 2nd half we got a great start with another well worked goal albeit the Killie defender appeared to gift Cadden possession. But for an abysmal finish from Lionel we should have been 3 up and home and hosed before we conceded, setting us up for a nervy last 15 mins. Lots to be pleased about but still room for improvement.

I like what they have done with the league cup. Having the final in the first half of the season is good. Not sure about having the euro teams seeded as theyve already had preferential treatment by being given a by unto the knockout stages. Definitely an argument for making it an unseeded draw from there. I dont like the challenge cup revamp. As stated above it was a chance for the lower league teams to play for some silverware. Should have remained so. The U20s already have a cup competition.

Some of the subtitles are a hoot!

Home game for me. See you all in the Brass and Granite about 1pm!