Onthefringes

😂 Am I? Sides are splitting. Nobody has professed the Bois are angels. You and others constant reference to them show the lack of understanding on the subject also. A denial as you put it by the evil villain/employee mentioned has little to no bearing on the protest, but, it’s not fitting your agenda - suspect the information which is will be known as the proposed meeting happens. Away and throw shite at the moon? Really? Act your age and not your shoe size never more apt. As for the personal slate? What’s a bammer? Nobody was injured, has there ever been? The disabled fan himself would take you to task too, he even laughed what is your version of any incident off online. I’d say it would be unfortunate but, not the target practice you seem to think it is. Rightly, the culprit (in a worse case scenario) should be called out and be suffice - no issue with that. But, running to the powers that be (the club have enough as it is I’m told) is behaviour worth the watching. it’s grassing. Remember snitches get stitches 😉

Right, so you’ve gone from ‘lobbing into’ then ‘throwing’ to ‘they threw them indiscriminately in a direction towards’. Well, now that you’re sure… took you three goes to decide. A lot of facts there. Pissing yourself at someone being injured as you alleged? I bet, you go down a storm at a party. On your media outlets quip, fair to return the pedantic baton to yourself. Burn injury would have received exposure on plenty of platforms. It didn’t & not for the reason you’ve given. Get real? Have been throughout, much to your chagrin obviously - not once have I defended throwing pyro devices so your rambling is erm, pointless. 100%. Nobody likes a grass either.

No they never. Read what they said & not just look at the words! Nobody threw anything ‘into’ the crowd… Wheres the evidence of this burnt hand? Befuddled. Given the scaremongering going on this would’ve made the media outlets without a doubt.

In your opinion. Suspect if they acted like you say they do the powers that be would have ‘em disbanded toot sweet. Flying with the crows is way off in this instance.

😂 I knew you would. Gepetto? Deary me. Pedantic as I am, point me to where I am defending the matter? You claim ‘fact’ - when all that was asked was to keep things factual. Recall it being mentioned real time, felt it was exaggerated then as I do now. Poster above gives fair reasoning though. Tell your friend I’m definitely not in the group, never have been nor ever will be. I certainly don’t mind their company on occasion and understand their aims. It happens when you expand your mind.

Fair comment.

You’re peddling that again… We get you’re not in favour. And for your information they were pilloried for the action in plenty of circles. You’ll see it’s never happened again even when similar situations arose.

Your opening gambit is where they are. Discussion is planned I hear, those wishing to chair are basing any talks on ‘social media’ output and not on behaviours including that of employee(s) so it’s felt by many the tone that will likely be taken. Think the requests by others to be represented who have no links to any group is pretty telling. Those who are in support of the groups and action being taken aren’t disagreeing that groups should be complying with rules, the constant reference to release of pyro is for another debate, as I’ve mentioned issues are not inextricably linked. Fairly balanced reply although off on a tangent for me. Not in reply to yourself, anybody saying ‘lobbing flares into your own support’ give off heavy Pinocchio vibes.

You’re on the right track…

How parochial. Any ‘beef’ is due an employee offering information on numerous occasions that has lead to zero convictions whilst innocent parties (as ruled by the judiciary) have been subject to dawn raids of late amongst other unusual practise. It’s not just that section of our support having issue, plenty with no links have registered complaint too.

Hysteria. At least keep your point of view factual? You are correct, there needs to be a solution - assuming the majority think that one individual is the problem and not them isn’t the case no matter how many times you & others tell yourselves.

If the viewpoint is constructive why not? Not going into the rights and wrongs, abuse or threats isn’t a good look - I’m of the opinion incidents of that nature are few and far between.

Conjecture? Not on my part. All that was said was ‘access granted to the away support’ which it was - in advance or not is nether here nor there. Don’t recall anybody mentioning one group gaining more access than the other? For the avoidance of doubt, the representations to the club by many including those not in any of the groups & any protest isn’t down to no access to have displays.

Semantics Mr Park. Entry to the ground with at least one box full of glossy copy paper isn’t exactly sneaking the stuff in so ‘access granted to the away support for a display’ isn’t an untruth.

😂 ‘can’t be disputed’ yet, easily discounted.

No bother precious. To answer your question. My difference of opinion, informed or not, doesn’t make yours or other opinion ‘tired repetition’ - it’s the whataboutery of they did this, they did that & we don’t agree with is or we don’t agree with that. It’s not inextricably linked to the statements made or protest yet, some have it on rinse, repeat. Only asked for something different? Dont know where “The bois can do no wrong in your eyes” chat comes from. I’ve already stated they’ve been censured and plenty of us remind them when required. You’re again linking the “bois” when in truth their input to what you claim is minimal if at all. That’s the facts…

So you say. Why then the representations being offered to the club from many in the fanbase who are not attached in any way to the group and concerned parents alike? I’ve already said it wouldn’t be my choice of protest. It’s certainly a starting point. If it had disrupted the matchday experience of the holier than thou the same folk would moan instead of mockery.

Well, it ain’t difficult. Offer something that isn’t tired repetition?

Constantly post on the forum with apparent in the know knowledge? But, I generally don't back up claims? Think you’ll find I can & do back up everything I say, it’s been remarked on here that I do also. I’ll say it again, don’t think I get any more than others, just better and it’s corroborated before I do post. In a manner that upsets a few, but, plenty & not just those who know me understand the why’s. I make no apology for that. And if anyone has a different opinion you belittle them? Hand’s up, on occasion I have done, when it’s felt I should given the out there takes being replied to. Genuinely have taken stock of that and have refrained from doing so. Its digressing from the topic though. I’ve already said, some are only seeing what they want to see. If it doesn’t conform to how they think you should it’s all bad. Easy to discount from our points of view as everything may not be as it seems. Player attack analogy was poor as it bore no relation to the idea of protest as made out in the statements. Nobody has disagreed with “if you do something wrong then you have to pay the price” of course! There has to be regulation or it’s chaos. What have they done though that’s wrong in this instance that’s required the public statements? Nothing you and a few others keep repeating on here. They are separate issue & not always by who you’re claiming to be carrying them out. Can’t reiterate that enough. Not enjoying some awaydays is the curse of ineffective stewarding and policing in most cases I’m afraid, Reaction of some is again indigenous. Such is the make up of our away support and ground layouts it’s easy to remove yourself from the locale they choose, that’s a nod to the earlier sentiment. Mock you may. Another nod to ineffective stewarding if they were allowed to gather up the back surely? Wouldn’t have been my choice of protest, either stay outside then enter at the agreed time or today could’ve been spent watching from afar giving trade to local business as there was live coverage and absence would receive greater coverage and give the powers that be something to focus on that isn’t as one sided offered to them by someone screaming “Woah! Look at me!”

It’s been said before, obvious some watching what they want to see. Ain’t nobody condoning what you’re terming ‘stupid behaviour’ either and it’s certainly not the argument they’re having with a certain individual if you care to read statements published. Certainly nothing tangible on offer from some usual suspects at anyrate except naysayers and happy clapping is good and those who don’t conform bad.

Aye. OK. You added fuck all to any debate anyway.

Again, unfounded claims. The ‘bois’ involve themselves in stupid behaviour both in and out the stadium is a misnomer - suggests you know little despite seeing it with your own eyes. I explained the reason that it’s myth as it has happened when no disorder of any kind was evident. Hardly a strange slant. Problem been further compounded today we hear with access granted to the away support for a display. Club owners should be taking note.

Your first statement not entirely true, plenty of evidence that they’ve taken accountability. Can say what we want about them but Burrows & Russell were always a sensible go-between. They understood the aims and objectives and were supportive. The second statement is myth. There’s also been plenty of events when not involved as you say that attempts to exert an undue control and influence by the club employee. Fully expect that would be the case moving forward too.

In your opinion? Maybe. I suspect most don’t agree both inside and outside. You don’t really get the jist of meaningful protest for starters. Out of touch and a total lack of understanding.. Theres also a saying ‘for those who understand it needs no explanation, for those who do not, no explanation is possible’. Fan culture has shifted immeasurably even since the inception of the group at the end of the East Stand. The generational gap between those in the East Stand, the naysayers and those in the boardroom is the real worry. Do us a favour and leave out the “Green Brigade wannabe” references. It’s far removed from what’s been going on. I for one am glad political & religous belief is generally left outside the gates.

Another nonsense statement from yourself. You understand who the Well Bois are? It’s not difficult to grasp the demographic on how the end section is made up, largely 3 factions. It’s disingenuous to brand all the same. Yet, you don’t ‘like’. Never once have they sought ‘to value their status more than the club itself’. There are plenty within the fanbase who have reminded them of that and they’ve grown stronger due that actively encouraged by the club. It would be anarchy without. Again, some just don’t want to recognise that.