El Grew

Self-inflicted wounds! First goal bad deflection off O'Brien certainly but nobody closed the shooter down in the first place. Second goal was schoolboy defending with O'Brien and McManus both drawn to Clarkson but neither prevented him playing a simple header to other Dundee striker running off them. Third goal was simple goalkeeping mistake - shades of Graeme Smith. Fourth goal was a joke with O'Brien and Twardzik colliding. And people want to blame the manager!!?. FFS the same three tossers (Twardzik, O'Brien and McManus) have been like this since the start of this season. I'm certain the manager will have worked out who the tits are that he can't rely on without any help but his hands are tied as no money to get some replacements in and quite a few players out injured. However it might be worth the club speculating some cash now to ensure we stay in SPFL even if it means going into the red - they can always recoup with SPFL prize monies at end of season. Might be better than doing nothing and getting relegated.

Undoubtedly the defence is and has been dreadful this season - we have a goalkeeper on a par with Graeme Smith (great direct shot stopper but useless with crosses and high balls due to a lack of height and physical presence), no true right back, normal left back out with injury and becoming more injury prone as he gets older) and two suspect centre-backs..Having said that I think the major problem lies in our midfield - which offers precious little or no cover or protection to the defence and little or no creative support to the forwards. Keith Lasley is operating pretty much as a one man midfield and gets no support from the other three so-called midfielders. This is the main area that needs to be addressed by the new manager who must get a midfield four playing as a unit and offering stiffer cover to the defence and make us harder to breakdown and score against and if that means grinding out some boring draws then so be it.

As I said in response to another post, why are people having a go at Ian Barraclough? He's only been in the job for a few weeks and it's not his fault we are in the p*sh. The people to blame (with a couple of exceptions) are the ones who are pulling on the C&A jerseys on match days. It's time people realised that and aimed their ire and wrath at them. Some are just very bad footballers but some are just shirkers and whilst he's not alone in that category, Lionel Ainsworth springs readily to mind. Is it any wonder he's had so many clubs? Along with a few others he has disappeared since the demand for showing some bottle for the cause was made. The new manager does not have a magic wand nor will he be given wads of money to sort things out so fans will need to be patient and support him not pillary him.

How in the name of all that's holy is the problem anything to do with Alan Burrows? The blame for the mess we are in surely lies with the previous regime. McCall suddenly realised he could do no more with the fuds he had on the playing staff and Dempster realised she had done as much as she thought she could. In short they were both looking for exit strategies. The problem is that the time they chose to exit was when the club as a whole was on a downward spiral making the job of those coming in to replace them ultra difficult to say the very least.

Some of the comments being made by some on this forum (and yes they are quite entitled to make them) about the new manager are simply staggering in their knee jerk stupidity. The man has only been in the job for about a month and it was not him that put us in the position we are in but the previous manager aided and abetted by the amateurs that are behind the scenes at FP. He has inherited a squad of players which is about as bad as I can ever recall at FP, where the youth policy has been ignored for too long at the expense of short term signings that have turned to be third rate. which has been continually.Alex Ferguson would struggle to make any impact. So FFS get a grip and give him time because I'm sure he knows a clear out of players is much needed but also that this is impractical and that he somehow has to skiddle with this lot and try to get the 10th spot by the end of season and then start the clear out. Remember what happened to Hibs last season when Butcher announced upon his arrival that many of the players he inherited would not be there for long -players downed tools, club relegated and Butcher bulleted.

Spot on Stu. Let's give the lad time and don't pitch him in too fast.

Of those out there in the first half, IMO the following can be shown the exit door ASAP -Kerr, McManus, O'Brien, Reid and Ainsworth. Why did we ship young Saunders out and then proceed to sign more defenders worse than he was?

Yes I agree with your comments on Lionel Ainsworth. Just does not look interested nor does he look like the type of player that will roll the sleeves up and work to help others. IMO (and who could blame him after the NDP game) the manager set out the team to try and stifle Aberdeen and hope to nick something on the break. But given we are against the meanest defence in the league I think he would have been hoping for a 0-0. The one positive, if there is one, is that they don't tend to score loads of goals - win a lot of games 1-0 - and you are never out of things at 1-0. Although hard to see how we will score.

Is Josh Law playing. Haven't heard his name mentioned once.

As ever, straight from the heart Ya Bezzer. I feel for all the 'Well fans that made the effort on such an atrocious day and paid to watch such a performance. All kudos to them

Be interesting to read the comments of some of the brave souls that ventured over to NDP today.

Spot on Lobey. There's been far too much short-term thinking at FP whilst others have been longer-term planning. Paying the penalty now and going backwards now.

Actually I was. However, personally I regard the aforementioned results as the worst. You may think otherwise.

Just checked the stats. This is our worst defeat to Accies since New Years a Day 1935 when we lost 6-1. Says it all as this lot set new records for the club by plumbing the depths. Losing to Albion Rovers and shipping 9 goals to Hamilton are by far the worst 3 worst results in all my time watching us. Really embarrassed and sad.

Not there but by the sound of it our defence (again) is shambolic McManus out!?

I assume you are joking mate! Barraclough stays, players out.

If anyone had any doubts that this is one of the worst set of players we've had for a long time then this should clear their head. Ian Barraclough has certainly got his work cut out now. And with Aberdeen next up.......

Well they won 4-0 at the Ark earlier this season so omens not good. Still let's the manager see just how bad some of this lot really are.

Decision not to go was the right one by the cut of it. A New Years Day humping by Accies and a soaking versus big comfy chair and a nice glass of malt. No contest. Sorry but done my time at these games.

Our record at Hamilton is none too hot and we haven't beaten them there since 2009. Overall our record reads: P56; W23; D11; L22.Bad memory of getting humped 4-2 there before on New Years Day. Would love to win but would take a draw.

Added to which he couldn't score a slate!

Oops sorry should have been: Played 89; Won 40; Drawn 24; Lost 25.

For the record Partick Thistle have not beaten us at FP since January 1996. Our all time FP record against them reads Played 45, Drawn 24, Lost 25. Given the current form of both teams they will be favourites. They don't score lots of goals but their defence is pretty Scrooge-like. Obviously we want to win but a draw would not be a bad result in this one.

Well you started it! We are not where we are in the league solely because of John Sutton so why specifically single him out or any one player come to that. We win as a team and lose as a team. It's know as collective responsibility. Our defenders are bad as witnessed by our goals against column and the type of goals we have lost. Our midfielders are bad as witness the lack of protection afforded to the aforementioned defenders and their lack of any creativity. Hey but never mind forget all that and let's blame one of the forwards. John Sutton is what he is and will not become more effective until we start creating penalty box chances for him and not playing him as a target man a la 1970s football. Oh and out of curiosity, just who would you replace him with?

This for sieb and his barmy army. Aye a right piss poor player, eh?