Kmcalpin
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Ross County or Aberdeen away midweek?
Will the SPFL wait until after next week's Dundee V Rangers game before releasing fixtures? They won't want one half of the gruesome twosome to win the title at Parkhead (why not)?
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8 hours ago, Stuwell2 said:
With some of the posts on here over the last few days, this thought gives me the fear.
Its called democracy.
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4 minutes ago, wellgirl said:
Published just before the vote in 2014 re Scottish independence
Ah right. A subject best avoided on here then.
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3 hours ago, wellgirl said:
The point is is that this stuff shouldnt be getting leaked.
Absolutely. Yes, we'd all like to know about the detail of negotiations, but if the source is a leak that is worrying. Most of us have heard "rumours" but have kept quiet. Leaking to a journalist, albiet a well meaning one; thats something else.
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32 minutes ago, wellfan said:
Print news has been in a terminal decline for a long time, and the Daily Record died when it published ‘The Vow’.
Sorry, whats the Vow got to do, with it? I wouldn't have thought that a romantic film was that contentious (just Wiki'd it). Am I missing something here?
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2 hours ago, SteelmaninOZ said:
Here’s Dan Casey
He certainly talks very well.
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7 hours ago, weeyin said:
I'm just looking forward to leaning in to the corporate synergy that leverages KPIs of the verticals in the intersectional market segments funnel as we disrupt the traditional leather based sphere projectile space.
You plagiarised that from the BBC - right?
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Are there roadworks in Motherwell this weekend? If so, what is the best route from the East (M8)?
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The interview sounds good and we should find out more about it in due course. The devil might well be in the detail though. So far so good.
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1 hour ago, Big Stall said:
Given that wee (john boyle or Nevin i think) were trotting out the 'fir park micro-climate' excuse. I dont think we can be too critical of Dundee bringing out their own crazy statements
That's fine up to a point, but we did eventually shell out big time to sort the problem. Dundee will stubbornly not do so unless forced. That's where the difference lies.
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1 hour ago, wellgirl said:
Youth development should always be at the core of the club. But if we had more money we could make more choices. We should not have to rely on selling talent to survive
Agree about the importnace of youth but selling our talent on has been a key part of our financial plan ever since I began supporting the club and that wasn't yesterday. It won't change, but I wish it would. We do, however, have to maximise our income and finances from other sources. We should only sell if the price is right for us.
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It's high time they were punished. This had gone on long enough and they've done nothing to address the problem.
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16 hours ago, wellgirl said:
I agree but surely it's pretty well known that members can pay monthly contributions. I've been paying a monthly contribution since 2018.
Yes, it is pretty well known now but it certainly was not widely known until a year or two ago. As has been said above, original members who paid by lump sum were never contacted about paying monthly contributions. The fundamental change from some members paying their subscription monthly to all members, irrespective of status, being encouraged to make monthly contributions was never ever advertised until very recently. Thats was a huge and costly failing. The move away from a dedicated website and lack of communication was at the root cause of this. "Lapsed members", like myself, for want of a better term were never contacted directly.
To finish on a positive note, things have certainly improved now, and thats the importnat thing. .
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The Rancid is reporting that SK is trying to fix up Georgie Gent and Jack Vale for next season. I hope he can pull that off ,but fear its a pipedream. .
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1 hour ago, joewarkfanclub said:
My initial stake was £300 for full membership. I was happy to pay that as I had the money available and wasnt buying a season ticket at that time.
There were other tiers of membership with far higher subscriptions than mine. I think the top level was £1500 if I recall correctly whereby you got all sorts of other benefits.
The rules changed later to smaller monthly subscriptions to allow those who were able to give a little more often to join.
I now pay monthly, but didnt for quite a long time.
I contacted the Society several times about this situation over the years, but nothing was ever done. I'm sure quite a bit of potential income was lost as result. As you say the initial plan was for members to pay in a lump sum or instalments until certain levels were achieved (Steel, Claret, Amber?). These levels attracted certain levels of benefit as you say. I'm exactly the same boat as you.
Following the early launch, the Society moved to a monthly subscription model, but this was never communicated to original members. Those who had reached the initial levels were never contacted about the switchover. We were never told that we could, or would be encouraged, to contribute over and above the intial levels.
Matters do seem to be improving now.
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1 hour ago, joewarkfanclub said:
Better to stay, get games under your belt and move on as an Alan Campbell, David Turnbull or (whisper it) Chris Cadden, than a Jake Hastie or Bailey Rice........
Alan Martin, Reece McAlear.................
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4 minutes ago, wellgirl said:
Why are people entitled to a vote if they aren't paying into the well society?
Thems the rules. Just to clarify though that there are 2 distinct categories of "non payers". Those who fully paid the original target sum eg Steel membership level in one lump sum or several smaller lump sums and secondly those who were paying by monthly instalments and stopped. To a large extent, this arose because of widespread confusion and ambiguity when the Society changed the subscription system to monthly sums, whether or not you had fully paid up the initial sum in full.
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12 hours ago, Motherwellfc1991 said:
I joined the society way back when it was launched and paid a decent monthly contribution for a good few years but I’ve never had an email or anything from them since the joining pack - ever !! I even used the email address posted here recently and still haven’t heard back. Because I don’t contribute now does that mean I don’t have voting rights anymore ?..............The structure and the society’s medium and long term strategy will go a long way in me deciding how i vote ( if I’m allowed) and whether I start contributing again...........
I may be looking in the wrong places but so far it’s a bit like a general election with more being said about the potential investment by society members that I’m aware of than how the society is going to be successful moving forward - does the society have a written strategic plan for the future ?You are still entitled to a vote.
Sorry, but it needs to be asked.............have you changed email address? Have you checked your spam/junk folders? Try ringing the Society. These problems do need to be sorted out. I'd hope, in any event, someone from the Society has/would PM you. No doubt there are others like you.
We have to be patient in the short term, to give the Society time to work up its proposal. After a period of torpor, things have improved since the Society elections.
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9 hours ago, mfc said:
It looks like young dylan wells will be signing a new deal with us rather than going to the english premiership.
The ink is not dried yet. However, if it comes to pass, it would be a good bit of business and a boost to our Academy. Probably best for the lad's long term development too.
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I've been a critic of SK in the past, but credit to him, he's turned things around. As others have said, whatever his faults he seems to be a good man manager and never lost the dressing room at any point.
He's being seriously tested just now though. There will be a number of players he wants to release in a few months but he has to keep them onside for teh time being.
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I agree with a lot that has been posted on here. I'm still not fully convinced though about the Society making a recommendation to members, although I get why it would. Should the Executive Board of the club also issue a recommendation to the 29% private shareholders? In that eventuality, it would be vital that both messages to private shareholders and Society members are harmonised. Thats not been the case so far, although I'm optimistic that recent changes in the Society and club are improving matters. We don't want differing messages. This will have to be handled carefully.
I'm in no rush though - better to take time and undertake due diligence.
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Sam Nicholson?
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39 minutes ago, steelboy said:
On the one hand you have the club chairman Jim McMahon funding a marketing campaign to give the impression that we need an American investor when he was in secret talks with an American investor.
I think this reflects the nature of the Executive Board, which in recent times has been almost divided. Maybe "divided" is slightly too strong a term. Maybe operated as two entities.
Mintymac is right. When the time comes, a meeting or meetings should be held for members, and probably also for private shareholders.
IF the Society makes a recommendation to members, it has to be careful how that is worded and not be seen to rubbish any private proposal. A fine line to tread. I'm sceptical of a "trade union" approach as I had a couple of bad personal experiences of that during my working career.
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15 minutes ago, bobbybingo said:
Would that not be seen as suggesting how members should vote? Should the Society be taking a position on this offer?
Yes, I think it would Bobby. If it ever comes to this, both proposals could be put to members with FAQs and an idiots guide for folk like me.
Bottom 6 Season 2023/24
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Given our injuries this season and our horrible winless run I would have settled for 10th spot a few months ago. So for me, its almost job done but not quite yet. Lets take the summer to rebuild for next season. Hopefully SK will find it easier to clear the decks this time round and bring in more of his own choices.