madwullie

The Blue Square has a TV deal. The Northern Irish League has a TV deal. Why would there suddenly be no deal for a Rangerless SPL? A less lucrative deal yes, but no deal is fucking nonsense

Thanks lads

Any sign of a radio link to this new fucking BBC website is a mess

Clarkson has seemingly played for 2 teams already this season so wouldn't be able to play for us too.

I was watching on a stream. Penalty was soft but Jennings was definitely turning his body to ease the boy out of the road

Born Glasgow, brought up mrwll (ladywell, braidy) now in uddingston via glasgow crieff and linlithgow. Slowly working my way back to God's country, the north shire

Pretty sure virgin have only got alba very recently

Can't believe people are actually talking seriously about this. A move to us at this stage in his career would be a massive backwards step and there are 101 other, wealthier, better supported clubs out there that would take him like "that" if he was struggling to find somewhere. Let's just keep our fingers crossed for when he's hitting his mid 30s

Much as I'd love to see Porter and Hughes back, surely their wages will price them out of our range? They're both decent players and surely higher payers than us will be interested. They moved away for a better paypacket, are they really going to take reduced terms to come back here - and were they both not out of out range previously but Boyle bankrolled it? He's not going to be here next season to do that. And considering we have managed to maintain a fairly decent league position since they left, do we really want to jeopardise ourselves financially for an extra place higher or so in the league? Don't get me wrong I'd love to see Porter especially back in a Well shirt as much as anyone, but the future for us has to be getting younger, less expensive guys signed up for as long as possible - a la Hately, Randolph, Hutchison, Humphrey - and hopefully eventually move them on for a fee. I doubt either of them would sign on for much more than a season, meaning loads of pounds paid out and fuck all in when they inevitably move under freedom of contract, for the sake of one place in the league, maybe two if we're lucky.

If I was a true Well fan without a ticket, or I lived miles away and was hoping to be drawn in the ballot, I'd either be down there myself "innocently" enquiring about the ballot today, or I'd be getting someone I know to go down for me to do same.

Probably shouldn't say this, but my mate went down this morning to check the score and was asked his name. They didn't have it on the system despite the fact he'd registered twice for the ballot. So they just sold him tickets there and then cos they had his name from previous games. I then went down about an hour ago to check my name was on the system for the ballot, it was, I hadn't been selected yet but they just sold me tickets there and then. ** taps nose **

You might be right about this year I don't know - anyway here's a comparison of them lifted from P&B from the 08-09 season. Makes interesting reading. Scottish Cup 1: £2000 (R1) 2: £4000 (R2) or £6000 (R1) 3. £6000 (R3), £10,000 (R2) or £12,000 (R1) 4. £8000 (R4), £14,000 (R3), £18,000 (R2) or £20,000 (R1) 5. £18,000 (R4), £26,000 (R3), £28,000 (R2) or £30,000 (R1) QF. £30,000 (R4), £38,000 (R3), £40,000 (R2) or £42,000 (R1) SF: £45,000 (R4), £53,000 (R3), £55,000 (R2) or £57,000 (R1) Winners: £105,000 (R4), £113,000 (R3), £115,000 (R2), £117,000 (R1) or £30,000 Runners Up: £75,000 (R4), £83,000 (R3), £85,000 (R2), £87,000 (R1) League Cup First round losers: £10,500 Second round losers: £14,750 Third Round losers: £24,500 Quarter-Final losers: £38,000 Semi-Final losers: £47,500 Runner up: £82,000 Winner: £110,000

League Cup is much more lucrative than Scottish Cup in terms of prize money anyway.

Statement on the website

GAME A: 1-0 GAME B: 0-0 GAME C: 1:2 etc EDIT: Ah shit, thelip60 got there first.

Quality in FM about 8 years ago as well. Get him signed

Any word on pitch inspections?

*mooted

And is made of balsa wood

From what I've heard, Killie aren't paying a penny for Eremenko

10 is a definite no-go. Staying as we are but adding in another relegation spot is the only way forward. 18 team league while amazing in our heads just isn't financially viable. We need realistic solutions that will make the fans as happy as possible within the parameters that will make TV keep giving us the money we need to survive in our current guise. That requires 4 OF games a season, whether we like it or not. If we want our club to stay alive in its current we need to accept that sucking on the OF teat is necessary until such time as they finally GTF. That doesn't mean we should bend over and take their ten top league like good little bitches, but that we need to find a compromise that will allow them their four games, give us a product Sky will pay decent money for, but also keep the fans as happy as possible. Pie in the sky 16/18/20 doesn't give that I'm afraid.

I don't support a ten team league, I'm simply outlining why a 16 or more team league is a definite no go despite how much we want it. Are fans walking away in their droves? Crowds are broadly up based on the recent figures. Fact is, TV killed football long ago, only the hardcore remain going to games week in week out (and I don't include myself in that), local people don't go to watch their local club and football fans who don't necessarily follow a particular side can turn on the TV 4 nights a week and watch a game. They don't need to pop along to their local ground to get their weekly fix of football any more. And frankly, increasing the size of the top league and introducing more meaningless games isn't going to solve that. Depressing as it is, we just have to learn to piss with the cock we have until such time as the OF get their move away, be it to some European Super League thing or England. Then we'll see a drastic drop in the quality of player we have, but more exciting and competitive games dished up by the lucky few who manage to stay full time.

I don't get the hatred for the split at all. IMO it's the best thing that has happened to football in years. It increases competitiveness (teams vying for relegation / europe play their main rivals for these "honours"), packs the season with meaningful games, and frankly, I don't see the rationale behind the TV companies saying they'd pay more for a league without a split. The TV want exciting games, and what's more exciting than 90% of teams having something to play for right down to the very last kicks of the ball as happened the other year. Also, I wish people would stop peddling this "16 team league would allow teams to blood youngsters" myth as if there are no youngsters playing in our league any more. This may have been true 10 years ago when teams were spunking money they didnt have on foreign journeymen, to use the cliche, but have you seen our squad this year, and that of most of the teams around us. No-one can afford to pay these foreign journeymen any more and are already blooding youngsters. Christ, think of the players we've punted in recent times, most of them have risen through our ranks in 10 / 12 teams leagues. If certain youg scottish footballers aren't getting blooded, it's because they are shit at football. Chucking them into meaningless end of season games against Raith Rovers isn't going to turn them into Iniesta. It's the coaching and training that needs to change to facilitate this, not creating a footballing graveyard below a bloated top league that our country can't sustain. 12 teams with split, 14 teams 6/8 split is the best we can do. 10 teams is a total nonsense. It was pish boring years ago so we moved away from it, what exactly has changed in the interim that it is now going to be the saviour of Scottish football? Frankly I think we should just stick with what we have and add in a playoff for relegation, or better still make it two straight down. This would increase turnover of teams and go some way to getting rid of the monotony of playing the same teams over and over again. BTW 14 7/7 or 16 8/8 split would never happen for two reasons. Think of the fuss Boyle kicked up when we were given more away games than home games the other year, this wasn't equitable and would be the norm in a 16(8/:doh:. Can't see either of the bigots agreeing to be playing their rival away twice and once at home. Also, for 14 7/7 you simply can't have teams sitting out when others are playing for reasons of competitive integrity. These debates always come down to utopians vs realists. What the utopians need to realise is that 16, 18 or 20 teams would financially cripple the clubs, meaning much poorer players playing for much less money in a markedly lower quality set up. The reality of the fare on show were massive expansion to happen would quickly makes supporters of this realise their mistake. I'm a realist. I'd love to see a top league of 20 decent sides locking horns every year, but the fact is Scotland can't support that many teams in a top league (relegation from it would be armageddon for most clubs), and football is a business now and we need to have money coming into it in order for us to be able to watch matches the standard we are used to. A certain thing that must happen, no matter how nasty a taste it leaves in out mouths, in order for us to be able to get that money in to enable us to watch the same standard of football as we are used to. This is four OF games. As much as it pains me to say it, we need these 4 OF games a season to bring in decent TV money, unless we want to be paying more money at the gate to watch verging on semi-pro football week in week out. This means we have to have a small league to facilitate this. It's shit for the utopians, I know, but it's something they just need to swallow down. And before any one says well fuck the OF we don't need them, we don't need to pander to them etc, yes we do, be realistic about this ffs.

Not sure if Stubbs has the balls for the Well job

It is a media myth that John Hughes' teams play "fitba in the correct manner". Have a read of what Falkirk and Hibs fans have to say about his sides and you will quickly discover it was turgid mind-numbing pass around the back never forward shite. You'll also find out quickly that he has no plan B, always plays his favourites and he is not at all rated by anyone who supports a team he has ever managed.