bobbybingo

As I alluded to in the next sentence you didn't quote.

If we had gone through we'd have been ball 7 and drawn away to Celtic. I know....

Och well, would've been a trip to Parkhead.

I've already acknowledged this was his second game against us. That's the only fact. Why you think they won and we lost is opinion. What's Dougie Imrie's disciplinary record as a manager?

You're right. Feels like an awful long time ago now.

He's turning out to be as big a pain in the arse as a manager as he was a player. Interesting that a relative rookie was able to beat us tactically at the first time of asking when an old hand like Levein couldn't do it in 3 attempts.

When you lose 2-1 to a team who had 1 shot on target....

We can start at Carlo Ancelotti and work our way through to Walter Zenga.

Yeah, they should always be planning ahead, but like the players, identifying decent targets is the easy part, getting them to come here is problematic.

Agreed. What's done is done, but Kettlewell needs to be using Vale and the other guys going forward. I could understand why he was loathe to use subs when the bench was almost devoid of decent options, but it's looking stronger now, so let's see them getting a fair run out.

On the bright side, Vale's already scored two more goals than Van Veen. He definitely needs to be given his chance.

On Wednesday, yeah.

I always suspected the players' attitude got us through that play-off rather than anything Baraclough did. Makes me wonder about their attitude in the games prior to that, right enough. Summed up by Ainsworth - very capable when he could be arsed. This lot are undoubtedly of a lesser standard but their attitude's been pretty good in most matches, Dingwall and last night being obvious exceptions. Just need to hope they get over it sooner than we will.

They would, but they still finished in the play-off spot. You could probably say the same about every team who were in the Premier then and now.

Could we find a better manager than Kettlewell? Absolutely. Could we find worse? Absolutely. The first thing we need to ensure this season is our survival in the Premier. Finishing 11th would be potentially disastrous, so any decision taken at this time has to be taken based on the likelihood of that happening, not how attractive our play is etc. That's why I think the summer would be the logical time for change, if change there's going to be. A look at the table shows we're not at the Hail Mary stage right now, and as far as alternatives go, I've yet to hear anyone put forward a realistic and exciting option. I get what you're saying about the board not taking big decisions because they're off soon. It's out there now, everyone knows it's happening - that uncertainty must ring alarm bells with any manager offered the job.

No idea. I haven't suggested sacking Kettlewell, but I would've thought people who do want him gone might have some clue as to who they want. If he did go right now, I don't think there's much doubt they'd replace from within, so we're probably looking at Frail. There was a lot of talk about Ian Murray a few weeks back when Raith were doing well, but after 5 defeats on the bounce, I've read a lot of their fans criticising him on social media. Same stuff as we mump about - poor signings, poor team selection, poor tactics, no plan B. Even if we wanted him, he'd cost us, having just signed a 3 year extension. If we can get some money into the club there's a chance we can go after a slightly higher level of player, which might attract a slightly higher level of manager. Without more spending power we're looking at rookies or folk like John Hughes, guys who'll take any job just to get back into management.

It wasn't meant to be funny, just utterly ridiculous. Exactly the response your comment merited.

The board will consider your application for CEO.

Who would you fancy to replace him?

One game, a 6 nil defeat. They'd lost their previous league game 5 nil. Kilmarnock went out to Championship opposition last year. McInnes has been rolled over in the Cup on more than one occasion, as we know. Probably why Aberdeen got rid of him.

Why is it a lazy question? I think most folk realised it would be a tough game. I certainly didn't see anyone other than yourself saying it was the easiest draw we could've got. On the other thread I questioned whether this defeat was inevitably going to batter our confidence, not dent it. I think that's a reasonable question. How many times have we seen teams bounce back from bad results, or vice versa, as happened tonight. Nothing is inevitable.

Fair enough, they might. I was questioning your claim that there was no easier draw than Morton at Cappielow.

If you state something is inevitable, you're saying it's certain to happen. You think it will have a negative effect on the team's confidence, I'm not sure how it'll affect them. Can anyone say it's a certainty?

Maybe they would have fancied themselves, but are you suggesting Morton at Cappielow is an easier draw than they got?

Asking why our confidence will inevitably be battered as a result of this is not an inane question. Neither is questioning statements baiting. I don't claim to be right, because I have absolutely no idea how this result will affect the team. Apparently, you do.