bobbybingo
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4 minutes ago, wellgirl said:
🤣One of my brothers pals was on the focus group and my brother texted me to say that most fans wanted to keep the hoop on whatever design was made
Good to know they're listening to the fans.
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Somebody in that boardroom really fuckin hates Motherwell.
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22 minutes ago, StAndrew7 said:
Priority is absolutely the LWB and GK slots, now. Maybe a few Terrance Rialists during the pre-season tour. Was it @steelboy who mentioned Randolph is out of contract?
Take it Randolph has been filling an emegency back-up/coaching role recently at West Ham and Bournemouth. Looks like he hasn't played a single game in the past 4 seasons.
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1 hour ago, steelboy said:
If people are paying a fiver to sign up to kill fan ownership they can get to fuck.
I'll definitely be asking about this whenever the 'surgeries' are happening.
What about folk who are paying more than a fiver to maintain fan ownership?
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Just now, StAndrew7 said:
I joined last week (Tuesday I think), other than a confirmation of my DD, nothing. I emailed them my details too.
Yup, same here. I realise they have far bigger fish to fry at the moment, but a wee automated welcome email or similar would have been a nice touch.
Anyone know if there is/was there a cut-off point for voting rights?
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19 minutes ago, Cameron_Mcd said:
If I was to guess, unless something changes in the next few days this proposal will pass.
Agreed. Individuals quizzing him on X or P&B will do next to hee haw when it comes to influencing folk who can only see £ and Hollywood signs. The Well Society have to do/say something meaningful, and sharpish, or the horse will have bolted.
By the way, how long do they normally take to acknowledge you've joined?
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12 minutes ago, steelboy said:
The Society need to communicate this clrearly. They should be taking apart Barmack's bid before they launch their own plan.
If they're still against the deal, as you would suspect, they better get the finger out on one or both.
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2 hours ago, MJC said:
Big Hearts fan is Callachan.
Bigger than you?
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50 minutes ago, MJC said:
That's undoubtedly true and a huge irritant for me, that for a club that never stops bleating about being cash strapped and rattling the begging bowls we don't half sign some amount of dross, some of which we know from the outset are perma-crocked. When you think of the money we've spunked down the pan in the last year alone on the likes of Obika, Halliday, Souare, Shaw and giving SO'D an extension then it's frightening and infuriating.
But hey "c'mon Taylor Swift gees some money"
What's SOD got to do with the perma-crocked?
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2 hours ago, steelboy said:
Kettlewell will be away before Christmas. He's not got a clue what he's doing.
Fingers crossed Barmack picks up some decent signings in January.
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It's always very, very difficult to see something when you close your eyes.
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12 hours ago, weeyin said:
Personally, I'd open the discussion with the forward needing their entire body to be ahead of the defender before they were offside.
That's being discussed, apparently. Arsene Wenger proposed it.
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8 minutes ago, wellfan said:
Oh, I don't doubt that they are conniving and conspiring to control the narrative and agenda, which does take some brains, but they also must be thick if they think they can pull the wool over our eyes in this instance.
The worrying thing is, you have someone saying, those communications are none of my business and I won't take them into account when voting. There's none so blind.
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If the idea we could play a home game against the Old Firm at Wembley is even a semi-serious fund raising proposal, we better start padding the board room walls.
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4 hours ago, steelboy said:
Just because the members voted for a vague proposal about investment that would give up fan ownership doesn't mean the board should be putting forward a ridiculous offer where we are paying £1.8 million to give our shareholding away and getting nothing in return.
The deal is the equivalent of having a £160,000 house and someone comes to your door and says they'll take a half share in the house for free but don't worry they'll put in 40 grand to build an extension. Oh aye and you need to put 35 grand towards that as well. And they are in total control of how the money is spent. It sounds like a wind up but this is the offer the club board are recommending.
We can argue till the end of time about whether the Executive Board should be putting forward this proposal or their motives for supporting it, but once they've done so, can the Well Society board - under the rules - refuse to put it to a members vote because most of the board members think it's laughably shit?
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12 minutes ago, David said:
That's true, but the bottom line is that it's fun. I love looking over previous stats and trying to figure out how a player will do for us.
It's all part of the fun of the close season and the transfer window, isn't it? Everyone making different assumptions, guessing how it'll play out, looking at previous performance for other clubs and so on.
Yeah, no opinions, no forum.
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23 minutes ago, David said:
I have no idea, I've not had the time to check yet. The point I'm making is that it's fine for fans to base an opinion for the time-being on his previous track record, whatever that may be.
It works both ways. We sign players who come in with a pretty good track record, and we say "that looks like a really good signing, he's played for X, Y or Z and done well."
Perfectly understandable that folk have an opinion on the past records of our new signings, most of us probably google them as soon as they're announced. Judging them before they've kicked a ball for us is a different matter, and a lot of the folk who indulge in that will never change their opinions according to performances, for obvious reasons.
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2 hours ago, David said:
Let's hope that is the case. However, it's not unfair for any fan to judge him on his past record. That's all we have to go on at the moment.
If he comes in and does well, those opinions will change accordingly.
What's his past record?
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'comprehensive update' from club coming early next week.
https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2024/06/13/update-following-mondays-statement/
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3 minutes ago, David said:
True. It depends on how well his team know him.
There's also the fact that he may be saying a lot, but he's not actually saying anything of real substance. He's avoiding certain questions, some of which have been repeatedly asked, and isn't really getting "into the weeds," as I've seen at least one person over there say.
I still think it's part of a bigger PR plan to make him more relatable to the fanbase. And regardless of it being him or a team member, it's working to an extent.
Yeah, some are clearly falling over themselves to annoint him as the messiah. Seems their hearts and minds are set on accepting investment from whoever or wherever, and no amount of facts either.
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3 minutes ago, David said:
Not at all. You'd be surprised how low-level executives can be and still have a small team of people working around him. I've seen it.
Also, when it comes to matters online, you need to take everything with a pinch of salt. I'd wager a good sum of money that Barmack did nothing more than sign off on that article. The reason for me thinking that is that I've worked previously for companies where I've seen that actually happen. Even a CEO's quotes for a press release or media interview aren't his own. His or her team create them and they just sign off on them.
Not that any of this really matters, mind you. The bigger picture is the actual deal itself.
Signing off on quotes or articles written by others is one thing, telling someone else to go online and get involved in conversations with fans is another thing entirely. Why take the chance an employee inadvertantly says something to piss off a group of extremely easily pissed off people when you're trying to butter them up?
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4 minutes ago, David said:
In all honesty? I'm not even sure it is him. I'm more of the belief that it's a member of his team who helped put this deal together, or a PR person. Or maybe even both using the one account. In my experience, guys like him rarely have the time interact as much as he has.
Even if it's not the man himself, it's someone working on his behalf. As close as we're getting at this stage.
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22 minutes ago, steelboy said:
I'm not writing him off but I'm wondering how we came to sign him. His spell with Accies and his loan to the National League North both seem to have been unimpressive.
I assume our lot looked at him, saw something they liked and believe they can help him more than his previous clubs have.
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11 minutes ago, steelboy said:
I'm not particularly having a go at you but the more he posts the more people seem to be impressed by it. It's like if a marketing company phone your house, the person might be friendly and engaging but they are doing it for money and trying to get something out of you.
I just don't want to a false equivalence created between Barmack and The Well Society. Everyone should remember he's a business man trying to buy an asset at an undervalued price due to a bitter old man in his 70s having a tantrum. He's not talking to Motherwell fans because he enjoys the dialouge he's doing because it's potentially worth millions of pounds to his net worth and all he has to is get enough Well Society members onside.
It's about transferring the community owned wealth of our Well Society to a Californian millionaire. It's that simple.
Not being funny, but you should get onto Pie & Bovril, challenge him directly, or at least engage directly with the folk you think are falling for his patter.
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New Investment Options
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The folk who are demanding 'Get it done' on social media are, without exception, unable to give one single concrete example of how EB plans to bring money into Motherwell, but they like the sound of his magic beans, so it's all good.
They also labour under the misapprehension the Well Society are/have been running the club, so it's entirely their fault we haven't signed Haaland and won the league.
The one good thing about all that is, they don't have a vote.