bobbybingo

I didn't want Kettlewell to get the job. It seemed the easy option at a lower than low point - plus, he does talk a very good game, which generally makes me suspicious of folk's actual abilities. But, like any Motherwell manager or player, I wanted him to succeed, which he did. I still feel the same and don't want to see him booted, but between his summer signings and our recent results, he's entering dangerous territory for any manager. Hopefully he can find a way out, but it needs to start soon. Preferably tomorrow night. The basic job for every Well boss has to be, keep us up. The board's job is to make sure they neither panic nor wait too long in situations like this. I wouldn't fancy either job.

I know our pathetic record against the Old Firm is a bug bear of yours and I don't disagree with you at all - like any fan of a certain age, I was used to us beating the pair of them at least once most seasons and would love to get back to that. How we do it, I don't know. We can't blame any specific person for instilling a defeatest attitude, given the turnover of players and managers. Although, I did see someone saying we'd never beat either of them again..... 😄

You just want us to aim a bit higher than simply finishing 11th every season and not exit every cup competition early? Ok. Since 2010 we've finished 2nd twice, 3rd twice and in the top 6 on 3 other occasions. You can roughly work out our European jaunts from that. I'd put our league finishes up against those of half the other teams in this league anytime. In the same period, we've reached 3 cup finals, one semi and 6 quarter finals. Obviously that's not good enough for you. You can ponder what we'd have done if we had been in the Championship all day long, but the point is, we haven't been for a ridiculously long time. Can big spenders like Hearts, Hibs or Dundee Utd say that? Talking of Utd, they did give Fletcher what he wanted and also shelled out enough to nick our top scorer. How'd that work out for them? As for our signings this season, that's down to very poor judgement, not a lack of ambition. Steve Clarke was clearly a guy on his way up when he went to Killie, so well done to them for that, but McInnes is past his best. Levein will probably get a debut 3 points tomorrow night, but that won't be anything to do with his managerial skills at this late stage. He started well with Hearts, failed in England, did well with Dundee Utd, failed with Scotland and failed on his return to Tynecastle. He has won absolutely nothing so far as a manager, and he'll win nowt in Perth either. My first Motherwell team was assembled with ambition and loads of dough. Loved them, great to watch, but won nothing, fell apart after 2 or 3 seasons and we ended up skint in the First Division. We appointed an ex Aberdeen and Scotland manager straight from a World Cup and had to bullet him before we could get back up. John Boyle's ambition took us into administration. I'm realistic about our place in Scottish football - it doesn' stop me hoping we can rise above that every season, but I remember we could just as easily fall below it.

We weren't in the Championship, they were. Is your ambition for Motherwell, to finish second in the league and get to cup semis/finals? Done both - at McInnes' expense and on a smaller budget. For non Old Firm teams, winning cups has as much to do with luck as anything else, you can't just buy your way to a trophy. But if you really want us to go for it with managers and players, you have to be talking about a new owner, because we all realise the fan base won't provide the money required for that. I have no idea where we'd find someone who wanted to pump cash into Motherwell, but who knows, maybe there's another John Boyle just waiting out there....

Spencer's the other broken nose. Doubtful, along with Butcher.

Maybe the reason Kilmarnock splashed out on McInnes was to make sure they got out of the Championship. He does well in that league. And maybe the reason we didn't push the boat out was because we absolutely fucked 2 of his teams in cup semi-finals, or it could've been the fact this managerial giant won a total of one trophy with Aberdeen's budget and fan base behind him.

Kilmarnock are obviously happy to spend more money on a manager and go with that monstrosity of a pitch. I'm not sure which St Mirren managers you think we couldn't have attracted.

You simply can't compare Tommy McLean's time with today. In those days a manager could attempt to buy his way out of a really bad spell, there was no transfer window to tie his hands. If a club is stuck on a losing run now, the boss better pray it happens in December. Otherwise, him getting the boot is the only change that can be made. I doubt any manager would actually want to stay at Fir Park for 10 years these days. Building a successful team has become almost impossible when any decent player is off within 6 months or a year. Look at the countless duds Tommy brought in before he got there with a couple of sides. We haven't seen his like again and almost certainly never will.

I think we're past the inspirational stage as far as fans are concerned. Anything he said after the game was gonnae piss folk off. It's simple - Kettlewell and the players need to start picking up points, whatever way they can, because words are literally pointless now.

Take it McGinn will be out. Kettlewell was talking about a possible fractured cheekbone - and 2 broken hooters (Butcher and?)

I'd be interested to hear what would you like to see happen at Motherwell to change the club approach and mentality. Specifically.

Allan Campbell's Millwall loan isn't going too well, not getting off the bench under the caretaker manager. He must be hoping Nathan Jones gets the job.

I thought he didn't want to come here.

He's certainly experienced enough, but I'm not sure what he ever achieved in management that would make you think he was up to it.

Who would you go for? I know it's not our job, but if you want Kettlewell binned right now you must have somebody in mind.

And that's what I said. It seems awfy harsh on Biereth to say that based on one game, especially with that line up and those tactics.

Yeah. So in your original comment you weren't actually referring to them as "so called strikers"?

He might be now, but he previously played, and scored reasonably often, at a higher level, as folk pointed out when comparing him to Bair. Right now, there's hardly a player in our squad who looks better than pub level, so he's far from alone.

He'll be getting Santa's sack for Christmas.

Based on one game, a guy who's scored 3 goals despite hardly playing has become a so-called striker? We're all pissed off, but come on.

As pointless complaints go, who gets subbed first between Bair and Wilkinson is right up there.

4 times, including the St Mirren League Cup game. Bair was subbed 4 times, Wilkinson twice. So clearly not every time.

How often have they started together?

He was subbed on Wednesday. Are you just making stuff up now?

Is Biereth a so-called striker now?